RE: A prayer before dinner
September 1, 2019 at 2:11 am
(This post was last modified: September 1, 2019 at 2:37 am by Haipule.)
(August 30, 2019 at 2:52 pm)Denverguy Wrote: I don't know how to handle this. I have two religious friends, and whenever I go out to eat with either of them this is a problem. I meet one only at restaurants. He always says a prayer before eating. It makes me feel awkward, as though by waiting until he's finished I am in agreement with the prayer. I'm not.The verse they use for this is grossly mistranslated:
I have another friend who I met for dinner at someone's house. Before we ate she said a prayer, while we all waited. (Several of us are non-believers).
Again, the awkwardness while waiting for her to finish the prayer. This is just me, but I find that to be a little rude and self-serving.
I am tempted to eat before she finishes the prayer, but that would be construed as rude.
I wish I knew how to deal with this problem. Any suggestions?
enteuxis
Side by Side: for it(food) is(-being) sanctified(purified, separating a class from a class) by(through) means of [the]word(intellect) of God and(-also) prayer(enteuxis). 1 Tim 4:5 NASB
enteuxis is a noun which means: a falling in with, meeting with, an interview, a coming together; to visit, converse or for any other cause. It only occurs twice in the NT and only by Paul and only in 1st Timothy.
In its verb form, it is the prefixed preposition en(in) + tugchanO(hit the mark). tugchanO is the opposite of hamartia(miss the mark, usually translated “sin”). Now, how we came from entugchanO(verb) to enteuxis(noun) to the English word “prayer” is beyond my 1st grade exchange student Greek, as well as my 4th grade surfer English.
In context, Paul is referring to the gathering together of people (enteuxis) for a special meal(separating a class from a class) of good food and poignant conversation concerning the character and nature of God’s word. Sounds like a heavenly party! NOT A RITUAL!
Of course, as a stupid surfer, I am wrong and all their teachers must be right. You know, they're filled with that thar Holy Spirit thingy and can't possibly be lying! Just be patient and know that they are...……
(September 1, 2019 at 2:11 am)Haipule Wrote:I love it when they ask me to say "grace", "Father, thank you for the food and friends. We ask that it nourish our bodies and heart: SO-BE-IT!" When the recipe says "serve immediately", why fuck around?!(August 30, 2019 at 2:52 pm)Denverguy Wrote: I don't know how to handle this. I have two religious friends, and whenever I go out to eat with either of them this is a problem. I meet one only at restaurants. He always says a prayer before eating. It makes me feel awkward, as though by waiting until he's finished I am in agreement with the prayer. I'm not.The verse they use for this is grossly mistranslated:
I have another friend who I met for dinner at someone's house. Before we ate she said a prayer, while we all waited. (Several of us are non-believers).
Again, the awkwardness while waiting for her to finish the prayer. This is just me, but I find that to be a little rude and self-serving.
I am tempted to eat before she finishes the prayer, but that would be construed as rude.
I wish I knew how to deal with this problem. Any suggestions?
enteuxis
Side by Side: for it(food) is(-being) sanctified(purified, separating a class from a class) by(through) means of [the]word(intellect) of God and(-also) prayer(enteuxis). 1 Tim 4:5 NASBenteuxis is a noun which means: a falling in with, meeting with, an interview, a coming together; to visit, converse or for any other cause. It only occurs twice in the NT and only by Paul and only in 1st Timothy.In its verb form, it is the prefixed preposition en(in) + tugchanO(hit the mark). tugchanO is the opposite of hamartia(miss the mark, usually translated “sin”). Now, how we came from entugchanO(verb) to enteuxis(noun) to the English word “prayer” is beyond my 1st grade exchange student Greek, as well as my 4th grade surfer English.
In context, Paul is referring to the gathering together of people (enteuxis) for a special meal(separating a class from a class) of good food and poignant conversation concerning the character and nature of God’s word. Sounds like a heavenly party! NOT A RITUAL!
Of course, as a stupid surfer, I am wrong and all their teachers must be right. You know, they're filled with that thar Holy Spirit thingy and can't possibly be lying! Just be patient and know that they are...……
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I also invented a diet pill. It works great but had to quit taking it because of the side effects. Turns out my penis is larger and my hair grew back. And whoa! If you think my hair is nice!
When does size truly matter? When it's TOO big!
I'm currently working on a new pill I call "Destenze". However...now my shoes don't fit.