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Prayer
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Prayer
Even babies get lethal cancer. And yet prayer is presented as good help. 

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#2
RE: Prayer
Prayer does work, wether or not YOU believe it does is irrelevant, it's only relevant to the person doing the praying.

In relation to healing however, prayer does no good seeing how healing is a finished work, which is why the Bible states that "by his stripes we were (past tense) healed", you just need to have enough faith to accept it.

Science cannot contradict that fact hence they acknowledge that people can be healed solely on belief, also known as the placebo effect.
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#3
RE: Prayer
still waiting for some poison swilling pit viper chortlers to make the case . . . .
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RE: Prayer
(January 10, 2018 at 12:26 pm)Huggy74 Wrote: Prayer does work, wether or not YOU believe it does is irrelevant, it's only relevant to the person doing the praying.

In relation to healing however, prayer does no good seeing how healing is a finished work, which is why the Bible states that "by his stripes we were (past tense) healed", you just need to have enough faith to accept it.

Science cannot contradict that fact hence they acknowledge that people can be healed solely on belief, also known as the placebo effect.

So, prayer sometimes works as a placebo effect. Right? The person doing the praying is the one doing all the work, not the god, because there is no god.
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#5
RE: Prayer
Or what about all the times that the placebo effect doesn't happen, or praying for someone actually leads to worse outcomes, as in the Templeton STEP studies?
In every country and every age, the priest had been hostile to Liberty.
- Thomas Jefferson
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#6
RE: Prayer
You keep telling yourself that, Huggy.  Next time you get sick just pray.... don't go to a doctor.
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#7
RE: Prayer
God never heal amputees.
"History is something that very few people have been doing while everyone else was ploughing fields and carrying water buckets." -Yuval Noah Harari
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#8
RE: Prayer
(January 10, 2018 at 12:26 pm)Huggy74 Wrote: Prayer does work, wether or not YOU believe it does is irrelevant, it's only relevant to the person doing the praying.

In relation to healing however, prayer does no good seeing how healing is a finished work, which is why the Bible states that "by his stripes we were (past tense) healed", you just need to have enough faith to accept it.

Science cannot contradict that fact hence they acknowledge that people can be healed solely on belief, also known as the placebo effect.

This one healed me from halitosis.

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#9
RE: Prayer
Two years ago, a member of the church where I work was diagnosed with colon cancer.  He was a brilliant 28-year-old cardiologist with a wife a new baby.
Not only did the church pray for him, the Diocese prayed for him, area Protestant Churches also added him to their list, and the churches of his co-workers did as well.
He was taken to the best doctors and clinics in the USA, and had at least one group prayer and anointing each week.  
He died.  Just as if nobody had been praying.  Now, all that prayer probably made his parents and brothers feel a bit better, maybe, but I dare anyone to go to his
6' 6" father and say "sorry, this must have been God's will and you'll find out why some day".   Yeah, I wonder how many millions of people it would take to get any actual proof of a God?
"The family that prays together...is brainwashing their children."- Albert Einstein
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#10
RE: Prayer
This guy , Dr.Kazuo Murakami is doing research to see if prayer do something to your genes, but I don't know how valid he is , I can't find much on him.
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