RE: The Jesus story has details that is most definitely made up i just realized!!!
September 11, 2019 at 4:54 pm
(September 11, 2019 at 6:08 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:Quote:There is some evidence that a man named Jesus may have existed in or around that time.
I think we can take it as a fact that there were lots of men about with that name at that time. As you say, 'Yeshua' wasn't a particularly unusual or unique name, and would have been about as common then as 'Joshua' (to which it is related) is now.
But as we narrow down all the Jesuses of the first century to get one that corresponds with the Jesus of the Gospels, the field gets thinner and the picture gets murkier. We need to have a Jesus who was a rabbi from Bethlehem, the son of a carpenter, travelled a fair bit (for the period), spoke to large crowds, was acclaimed by those crowds, got in trouble with the local authorities, and all the rest of it. Even if we leave out the magical bits and bobs of the story, we progress to a vanishingly small probability that ANY historical Jesus would be fairly represented by what we find in the synoptics.
Boru
For sure. This is why I can't stand that phrase that gets repeated by Christians, and Christian apologists, so often...
"No serious historian doubts the historicity of Jesus!"
It's a gross over-simplification of the issue and it's a statement that's meant to shut people down, not create a dialogue on the topic.
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