Our server costs ~$56 per month to run. Please consider donating or becoming a Patron to help keep the site running. Help us gain new members by following us on Twitter and liking our page on Facebook!
Current time: July 31, 2025, 9:21 am

Thread Rating:
  • 0 Vote(s) - 0 Average
  • 1
  • 2
  • 3
  • 4
  • 5
The Jesus story has details that is most definitely made up i just realized!!!
RE: The Jesus story has details that is most definitely made up i just realized!!!
(September 20, 2019 at 10:03 pm)Jehanne Wrote: Paul, in the 7 epistles that are undisputed as having been written by him, refers to some actions of the historical Jesus -- namely, his last meal,

What Paul is talking about is a custom of "Lord's Supper". Paul claims that Lord told him about this custom, he thinks no one would know any of this if he didn't share what his Lord whispered to his ear. Yet Paul is riffing off motifs from other places, like in Genesis 14:18 where priest-king Melchizedek, like Christ, also takes bread and wine and offers a blessing. Also by Paul's time, communion rituals involving bread and a cup of wine or water had long been a staple feature of the pagan mystery faiths found throughout the Mediterranean world.
Paul was very aware of this, so what does he do? He simply calls other regions that do this "fakes" 1 Corinthians 10:21 "You cannot drink the cup of the Lord and the cup of demons too; you cannot have a part in both the Lord's table and the table of demons."
This is far from the only thing that Paul rips-off, because for starters the honorary title of the cult gods in the mysteries was Kyrios, "Lord" - the exact same word used in the NT for Jesus.

The thing is that Paul bluntly admits that he's making up Jesus himself by looking into the scriptures and not even talking to other people (like witnesses). See it for yourself:

Galatians 1:11-12   I want you to know, brothers and sisters, that the gospel I preached is not of human origin. I did not receive it from any man, nor was I taught it; rather, I received it by revelation from Jesus Christ.

Galatians 1:15-16  But when God, who set me apart from my mother’s womb and called me by his grace, was pleased to reveal his Son in me so that I might preach him among the Gentiles, my immediate response was not to consult any human being.

Considering that Paul's writings date before the gospels, writer of Mark reverse-engineered a cosmic savior deity from Paul into a flesh-and-blood man on earth doing a sloppy job.
teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
Reply



Messages In This Thread
RE: The Jesus story has details that is most definitely made up i just realized!!! - by Fake Messiah - September 20, 2019 at 10:54 pm

Possibly Related Threads...
Thread Author Replies Views Last Post
  Get your story straight LinuxGal 1 1359 November 29, 2022 at 5:26 am
Last Post: BrianSoddingBoru4
  [Serious] The Story John 6IX Breezy 115 15899 November 21, 2022 at 12:39 am
Last Post: Paleophyte
  What do Catholics think of Frollo from "Hunchback of Notre Dame" story? Woah0 2 926 August 26, 2022 at 9:46 am
Last Post: arewethereyet
Thumbs Down The story of Noah' s Ark - or - God is dumber than you. onlinebiker 75 11689 September 24, 2021 at 5:53 pm
Last Post: BrianSoddingBoru4
  The ridiculous story of the temptation of Jesus Simon Moon 24 4155 March 4, 2021 at 6:05 am
Last Post: Pat Mustard
  angel story video form Drich 107 16992 April 23, 2020 at 11:30 am
Last Post: Drich
  My mom made me confused Der/die AtheistIn 15 3844 November 19, 2017 at 2:44 pm
Last Post: Der/die AtheistIn
  Worst Christian Video EVER Made Silver 8 2057 October 2, 2017 at 8:45 am
Last Post: Bob Kelso
  It Must Just Kill The Jesus Freaks. Minimalist 10 3398 March 31, 2017 at 12:35 pm
Last Post: vorlon13
  Way to go USA. We made the ICC hall of shame list brewer 12 3756 February 8, 2017 at 10:42 pm
Last Post: Cecelia



Users browsing this thread: 2 Guest(s)