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Another question for Christians
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RE: Another question for Christians
(October 18, 2011 at 4:05 am)CoxRox Wrote:
(October 16, 2011 at 7:25 pm)DeistPaladin Wrote: Why does blood sacrifice make everything better?

By "make everything better" I mean enable God to forgive our sins.

As someone who believes that Jesus' death was not in vain, I often ponder these points.

Your "Jesus is a plagerism of a much older idea construct, of the Harvest King / Winter King


(October 18, 2011 at 4:05 am)CoxRox Wrote: Before Jesus was killed (as the Passover Lamb), the Jewish sacrificial system involved animals. The animals were not killed JUST to be offered as sacrifices. They served as food for the people - so this is not wanton killing in order to appease an angry God.

They were killed to appease an angry dessert deity. Side benefit was that since the "empty shell" was left behind the "unworthy" could partake... usually in the form of the useless priests. Great con job there.



(October 18, 2011 at 4:05 am)CoxRox Wrote: The life of the animal is represented in it's blood and hence the sprinkling of blood etc. Interestingly, other nations have had human sacrifices. The Israelites did not have human sacrifices. It was abhorrent to God.

It was called mass genocide...and was quite pleasurable to this desert deity.


(October 18, 2011 at 4:05 am)CoxRox Wrote: When Jesus was killed by the Romans and Jewish leaders, they did not imagine, that they were offering up Jesus as some sort of sacrifice to God.


The "Romans" (nor any other nation at that time period) have any record of doing such a thing



(October 18, 2011 at 4:05 am)CoxRox Wrote: Jesus gave His life willingly (He sacrificed it) ie He allowed evil to take it's course.

If you believe that you are beyond hope...No record of it ever happening.


(October 18, 2011 at 4:05 am)CoxRox Wrote: The Romans and Jewish leaders meant evil in killing Jesus, but God meant it for good.

Funny that ...these Romans and Jewish Leaders felt the same way...ie: they were the ones that were doing good via politics...still no record of the god-boy.


(October 18, 2011 at 4:05 am)CoxRox Wrote: I don't begin to understand and appreciate why Jesus had to die, or how His death brings reconciliation, but I get tantilising glimpses and understand that death is not the end now.

If you want to believe that ...go right ahead. If it helps you sleep at night, it's just a placebo for the gullible



(October 18, 2011 at 4:05 am)CoxRox Wrote: Jesus conquered death and was the first fruit of the dead, to be raised to immortal life, and He promises to grant that immortal life to those who belong to Him. What an amazing man is He.

He never existed so could not have died and so could never be amazing. Now Maize is amaizing (pun intended) much more interesting than your god-boy and edible too! Big Grin

I would suggest you have your "Jesus orgasm" on a religious forum??
"The Universe is run by the complex interweaving of three elements: energy, matter, and enlightened self-interest." G'Kar-B5
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Another question for Christians - by DeistPaladin - October 16, 2011 at 7:25 pm
RE: Another question for Christians - by Minimalist - October 16, 2011 at 7:38 pm
RE: Another question for Christians - by Cinjin - October 16, 2011 at 9:17 pm
RE: Another question for Christians - by Godschild - October 16, 2011 at 11:59 pm
RE: Another question for Christians - by Erinome - October 17, 2011 at 12:19 am
RE: Another question for Christians - by Godschild - October 17, 2011 at 12:22 am
RE: Another question for Christians - by Cinjin - October 17, 2011 at 12:22 am
RE: Another question for Christians - by Godschild - October 17, 2011 at 3:16 pm
RE: Another question for Christians - by DeistPaladin - October 17, 2011 at 8:53 am
RE: Another question for Christians - by salty - October 24, 2011 at 10:38 am
RE: Another question for Christians - by frankiej - October 24, 2011 at 10:49 am
RE: Another question for Christians - by Ace Otana - October 24, 2011 at 1:11 pm
RE: Another question for Christians - by Cinjin - October 24, 2011 at 2:35 pm
RE: Another question for Christians - by Ace Otana - October 24, 2011 at 3:05 pm
RE: Another question for Christians - by Erinome - October 24, 2011 at 1:33 pm
RE: Another question for Christians - by DeistPaladin - October 24, 2011 at 2:04 pm
RE: Another question for Christians - by The Grand Nudger - October 16, 2011 at 10:07 pm
RE: Another question for Christians - by The Grand Nudger - October 17, 2011 at 12:36 am
RE: Another question for Christians - by Erinome - October 17, 2011 at 12:40 am
RE: Another question for Christians - by Godschild - October 17, 2011 at 3:47 pm
RE: Another question for Christians - by salty - October 19, 2011 at 5:12 am
RE: Another question for Christians - by KichigaiNeko - October 17, 2011 at 3:21 am
RE: Another question for Christians - by fr0d0 - October 17, 2011 at 6:20 am
RE: Another question for Christians - by KichigaiNeko - October 17, 2011 at 6:25 am
RE: Another question for Christians - by Erinome - October 17, 2011 at 6:39 am
RE: Another question for Christians - by fr0d0 - October 17, 2011 at 5:21 pm
RE: Another question for Christians - by The Grand Nudger - October 17, 2011 at 8:58 am
RE: Another question for Christians - by The Grand Nudger - October 17, 2011 at 3:24 pm
RE: Another question for Christians - by Godschild - October 17, 2011 at 3:53 pm
RE: Another question for Christians - by DeistPaladin - October 17, 2011 at 4:09 pm
RE: Another question for Christians - by Godschild - October 18, 2011 at 12:27 am
RE: Another question for Christians - by KichigaiNeko - October 18, 2011 at 2:46 am
RE: Another question for Christians - by DeistPaladin - October 18, 2011 at 9:26 am
RE: Another question for Christians - by Cinjin - October 18, 2011 at 12:17 pm
RE: Another question for Christians - by Godschild - October 18, 2011 at 2:39 pm
RE: Another question for Christians - by Cinjin - October 18, 2011 at 8:30 pm
RE: Another question for Christians - by DeistPaladin - October 20, 2011 at 11:24 pm
RE: Another question for Christians - by Cinjin - October 21, 2011 at 3:20 am
RE: Another question for Christians - by Jaysyn - October 18, 2011 at 8:34 am
RE: Another question for Christians - by Minimalist - October 17, 2011 at 3:38 pm
RE: Another question for Christians - by The Grand Nudger - October 17, 2011 at 3:51 pm
RE: Another question for Christians - by frankiej - October 17, 2011 at 4:13 pm
RE: Another question for Christians - by 5thHorseman - October 17, 2011 at 5:26 pm
RE: Another question for Christians - by fr0d0 - October 17, 2011 at 5:30 pm
RE: Another question for Christians - by IATIA - October 17, 2011 at 5:39 pm
RE: Another question for Christians - by Cinjin - October 17, 2011 at 8:15 pm
RE: Another question for Christians - by Cyberman - October 17, 2011 at 8:43 pm
RE: Another question for Christians - by Minimalist - October 17, 2011 at 10:01 pm
RE: Another question for Christians - by CoxRox - October 18, 2011 at 4:05 am
RE: Another question for Christians - by KichigaiNeko - October 18, 2011 at 5:11 am
RE: Another question for Christians - by ElDinero - October 18, 2011 at 7:13 am
RE: Another question for Christians - by CoxRox - October 18, 2011 at 4:52 pm
RE: Another question for Christians - by The Grand Nudger - October 18, 2011 at 10:35 am
RE: Another question for Christians - by Minimalist - October 18, 2011 at 12:04 pm
RE: Another question for Christians - by 5thHorseman - October 18, 2011 at 12:06 pm
RE: Another question for Christians - by Minimalist - October 18, 2011 at 2:42 pm
RE: Another question for Christians - by ElDinero - October 18, 2011 at 5:29 pm
RE: Another question for Christians - by CoxRox - October 19, 2011 at 4:53 am
RE: Another question for Christians - by Erinome - October 19, 2011 at 5:55 am
RE: Another question for Christians - by IATIA - October 19, 2011 at 8:44 pm
RE: Another question for Christians - by The Grand Nudger - October 18, 2011 at 5:43 pm
RE: Another question for Christians - by ElDinero - October 18, 2011 at 5:50 pm
RE: Another question for Christians - by IATIA - October 18, 2011 at 5:56 pm
RE: Another question for Christians - by Erinome - October 18, 2011 at 5:55 pm
RE: Another question for Christians - by Minimalist - October 18, 2011 at 9:02 pm
RE: Another question for Christians - by ElDinero - October 19, 2011 at 5:28 am
RE: Another question for Christians - by CoxRox - October 19, 2011 at 6:35 am
RE: Another question for Christians - by Killman - October 19, 2011 at 5:05 pm
RE: Another question for Christians - by ElDinero - October 19, 2011 at 6:50 am
RE: Another question for Christians - by CoxRox - October 21, 2011 at 12:56 pm
RE: Another question for Christians - by Cinjin - October 21, 2011 at 1:13 pm
RE: Another question for Christians - by CoxRox - October 21, 2011 at 2:49 pm
RE: Another question for Christians - by Cinjin - October 24, 2011 at 3:18 pm
RE: Another question for Christians - by DeistPaladin - October 21, 2011 at 1:17 pm
RE: Another question for Christians - by Cinjin - October 21, 2011 at 2:49 pm
RE: Another question for Christians - by CoxRox - October 21, 2011 at 2:50 pm
RE: Another question for Christians - by frankiej - October 21, 2011 at 3:06 pm
RE: Another question for Christians - by fr0d0 - October 21, 2011 at 5:11 pm
RE: Another question for Christians - by frankiej - October 21, 2011 at 5:15 pm
RE: Another question for Christians - by DeistPaladin - October 21, 2011 at 6:06 pm
RE: Another question for Christians - by KichigaiNeko - October 19, 2011 at 6:54 am
RE: Another question for Christians - by The Grand Nudger - October 19, 2011 at 8:54 am
RE: Another question for Christians - by Minimalist - October 19, 2011 at 7:29 pm
RE: Another question for Christians - by Minimalist - October 20, 2011 at 11:41 pm
RE: Another question for Christians - by Minimalist - October 21, 2011 at 5:20 pm
RE: Another question for Christians - by Ace Otana - October 21, 2011 at 5:34 pm
RE: Another question for Christians - by fr0d0 - October 21, 2011 at 6:54 pm
RE: Another question for Christians - by Minimalist - October 21, 2011 at 7:43 pm
RE: Another question for Christians - by ElDinero - October 22, 2011 at 12:06 am
RE: Another question for Christians - by fr0d0 - October 22, 2011 at 4:29 am
RE: Another question for Christians - by Zen Badger - October 22, 2011 at 7:03 am
RE: Another question for Christians - by Ace Otana - October 22, 2011 at 7:10 am
RE: Another question for Christians - by Captain Scarlet - October 22, 2011 at 7:20 am
RE: Another question for Christians - by Minimalist - October 24, 2011 at 11:03 am
RE: Another question for Christians - by fr0d0 - October 24, 2011 at 12:56 pm
RE: Another question for Christians - by Zen Badger - October 25, 2011 at 9:00 am
RE: Another question for Christians - by ElDinero - October 22, 2011 at 5:20 am
RE: Another question for Christians - by frankiej - October 22, 2011 at 5:22 am
RE: Another question for Christians - by Welsh cake - October 22, 2011 at 6:31 am
RE: Another question for Christians - by frankiej - October 22, 2011 at 7:15 am
RE: Another question for Christians - by ElDinero - October 22, 2011 at 7:34 am
RE: Another question for Christians - by The Grand Nudger - October 24, 2011 at 10:43 am
RE: Another question for Christians - by The Grand Nudger - October 24, 2011 at 10:51 am
RE: Another question for Christians - by ElDinero - October 24, 2011 at 10:58 am
RE: Another question for Christians - by frankiej - October 24, 2011 at 11:01 am
RE: Another question for Christians - by The Grand Nudger - October 24, 2011 at 11:29 am
RE: Another question for Christians - by The Grand Nudger - October 24, 2011 at 2:12 pm
RE: Another question for Christians - by Minimalist - October 24, 2011 at 4:12 pm
RE: Another question for Christians - by salty - October 25, 2011 at 9:10 am
RE: Another question for Christians - by KichigaiNeko - October 25, 2011 at 9:16 am
RE: Another question for Christians - by salty - October 27, 2011 at 10:05 am
RE: Another question for Christians - by The Grand Nudger - October 25, 2011 at 11:02 am
RE: Another question for Christians - by Minimalist - October 25, 2011 at 4:42 pm
RE: Another question for Christians - by Cyberman - October 25, 2011 at 6:49 pm
RE: Another question for Christians - by The Grand Nudger - October 25, 2011 at 4:50 pm
RE: Another question for Christians - by The Grand Nudger - October 25, 2011 at 6:55 pm
RE: Another question for Christians - by KichigaiNeko - October 28, 2011 at 9:58 am

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