RE: What is the biggest thing that theist do that annoy you?
October 18, 2011 at 9:01 am
(This post was last modified: October 18, 2011 at 9:15 am by Ace Otana.)
Quote:I knew one of you was going to try to debunk my entire list.Someone must challenge you.
Quote:You just missed the point. I understand that you want to lash out at Christians, but if you want to claim Christians behave badly and act the same way, that makes you a hypocrite.I never stated all Christians behave badly. I stated that people don't like being threatened. Christians have been known to do a lot of that. Show hatred and you'll have hatred in return.
Quote:I've rarely met an atheist who even understood the most basic concepts of redemptive history. What they excel at is missing the point.And I've never met a theist who could back up their assertions.
Quote:No. To lack belief is to claim you have no position. Not believing is a position.I don't believe, which also means I lack that belief. They are the same thing.
Quote:Anyone can know Jesus personally, it is just their willingness to seek Him out. It is a truth anyone can verify for themselves directly.Yes, of course. Through feeling and personal experience. Can't quite give us evidence though. Feelings and personal experience aren't worth anything. They are unreliable and have no explanatory power or value.
Quote:You seem pretty sure of yourself to me.Sure, but not 100% certain.
Quote:I suggest you read about natural philosophy, and empiricism, if you believe the workings of science is based solely on evidence. What it is truly based on is a series of unprovable assumptions that produce "data" by testing and observation, which is then interpreted; what that is or what it means depends on the philosophical underpinnings of your worldview.No, it's through observation and testing that we can view the results. That's how it works. No bias, no personal feelings. Just pure hard data. Better than anything you can give, by far. Also, the evidence is publicly verifiable, which means anyone can check it out. If you think it's wrong, demonstrate it. That's the beauty of science baby!
Quote:I turn this back around on you and challenge you to prove any of those things using scientific evidence.Why should I continue to waste my time and energy on educating you? You have any idea how many times I've repeated myself. How many times ignorant people like yourself who can't be fucked to do anything themselves. If you want scientific answers, go get them. I'm not a dog, I don't play fetch, I'm not a teacher. Get off your arse and do it yourself. I didn't ask people online to teach me all the things I know now, I taught myself.
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=Science+on+morality
Quote:You don't know how all of this got here, it doesn't mean no one else does. This is the point, that if you don't know, then don't presume to say what did or didn't happen.Well if they think they 'know' they can go fucking prove it. I think it's really arrogant to pretend to know anything. If you think you know, demonstrate it.
Quote:Feel free to correct me.http://lmgtfy.com/?q=theory+of+evolution
Look it up.
Quote:There have been several, all with the expressed goal of killing off religion. Death toll from such regimes is at least 100 million.Name them.
Quote:People know what sin is; they have a conscience. It isn't just a concept, it is based on moral absolutes. Those absolutes run our society and civilization, and people know when they are crossing the line. What I am saying is that people will resist giving intellectual assent to anything which curtails their passions.Total bullshit. You really need to do some reading of history. You want me to google that for you to?
Quote:This is not specifically against people here but all atheists, and I have seen many an atheist state that a continual goal is to break someones faith and convert them to atheism.Well I'm not one of them. It's not my goal to break peoples faith or anything like that. Gonna have to argue with someone else on that matter.
Quote:I'm sure you support all of the lawsuits that atheists file. And that's your opinion. We have a civil society because of religion, not in spite of it. Perhaps you haven't noticed but America (and England) was founded on judeo-christian values. Ever since America has started to turn from those values, since the 1960s, there has been a measurable moral decay which is accelerating at a frightening rate.Ignorant of history, check.
Quote:Children should be taught the truth, and what their parents believe about the world is what they're going to learn, whether you are secular or religious.Your 'truth' you mean? What you believe to be true, even though you're most likely wrong.
Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence - Carl Sagan
Mankind's intelligence walks hand in hand with it's stupidity.
Being an atheist says nothing about your overall intelligence, it just means you don't believe in god. Atheists can be as bright as any scientist and as stupid as any creationist.
You never really know just how stupid someone is, until you've argued with them.
Mankind's intelligence walks hand in hand with it's stupidity.
Being an atheist says nothing about your overall intelligence, it just means you don't believe in god. Atheists can be as bright as any scientist and as stupid as any creationist.
You never really know just how stupid someone is, until you've argued with them.