RE: What is the biggest thing that theist do that annoy you?
October 18, 2011 at 10:31 am
(This post was last modified: October 18, 2011 at 10:58 am by Ace Otana.)
Quote:If you don't believe something is true, you are making a claimI don't believe in Santa either, am I claiming something there to? Think you're confusing the - I don't believe in X with: I know there isn't X.
Demonstrate how it's a claim to not believe in something.
Quote:What I've said I will say again. If you pray to Jesus, and say something like "Jesus, if you're real, I want to know about it. If you are God, please come into my life and I will turn it over to you." If you can say those words and mean them, Jesus will reveal Himself to you. If you can't be bothered to take five minutes out of your life to try that, then obviously you're not interested in the truth. Only God can prove His own existence, I can only point towards Him.Am I also expected to perform rituals in ever other religion just to find out if it's true or not? Even if I was retarded enough to do what you say, I'm pretty sure nothing would happen. I'm firmly with science, not superstitious nonsense. Now, it's your beliefs, you back them up.
I'm not expected to do anything. The burden is not on me.
Quote:Then stop claiming I am wrong. You just admitted you don't know that.I never stated that I knew anything. I think you're wrong, but never claimed to know that. Could you back up your assertion that I did?
Quote:Well, what you said is just totally untrue. Data is indeed interpreted. Here is a quick example for you:What part of publicly verifiable didn't you get? If we have evidence of an object like a ball, something that can be observed, measured and verified then that is evidence that there is in fact ball. Opinion/points of view means fuck all. Though I guess evidence means fuck all to you.
Quote:Hah. Perhaps you misunderstood. I am saying those truths are unprovable by science. I am not asking you to do research for me; I've already done the research. I'm saying you don't know what you're talking about if you think that science can explain everything.I never stated that science can explain everything, care to quote me? I go where the evidence points. Science is a method, a tried and tested method that works. Get over it.
Quote:What I've done is undermine this claim by showing you half a dozen kinds of truth that science can say nothing about.Undermine a claim that was never made. Well done, you want a smiley sticker? A medal perhaps?
Quote:So, maybe you should get off your "arse" and start researching because your faith in science is misplaced. Your link leads to ethical naturalism, which isn't science, it is a philosophical discipline. Try again?Maybe you should re-read previous posts. Plus ethical naturalism is backed by science. Why? Because it's observable, testable!
Quote:Again, you can prove it to yourself quite easily. I cannot conclusively prove the existence of God; only God can do that.Then I'll wait for him to prove himself. I'm not going to hold my breath though.
Quote:Doesn't cover origins now does it?Abiogenises then, other than that I don't know. I'm not afraid to admit not knowing something pal!
Quote:The regimes of Stalin,Stalin was a corrupt dictator and had killed people for reasons other than religion. I hate the guy as much as the next one, however I can't see how that has anything to do with atheism.
Quote: MaoDon't know much about mao apart from the fact he was also a communist. Which both he and stalin were communists.
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Quote:Pol PotAnother communist.
Quote: Hitler was a social darwinist.Hitler was a Catholic. He in fact went to church regularly. Nazi belts had religious content on them.
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Quote:My feelings as a Christian points me to my Lord and Saviour as a fighter. It points me to the who once in loneliness, surrounded by a few followers, recognised these Jews for what they were and summoned men to fight against them.- Adolf Hitler.
He was actually very obsessed with religion.
Well, all you've named are 3 blood thirsty communists with one Nazi Catholic. That it? Religion had a huge population of evil vile men murdering people for the sickest of reasons. You've named three communist men. Big deal.
Quote:No, but I would appreciate it if you took the time to comprehend what I am saying before you go off the cuff.Make it clearer then. I'm responding to the post at hand.
Quote: I never said that cultures universally adhere to those standards, but in general civilizations have followed the same basic rules and that people know when they are violating those rules.It's called law. Also morality existed long before your religion mate. Morality can easily come from intelligence. Not from some book written by people who knew nothing of the natural world.
Quote:The truth. And you don't know if I am wrong or not.Like I said, your 'truth'. You can call it whatever you want. It don't make you right. Those who profess to be most right are often most wrong.
Calling something the 'Truth' don't make it so. It doesn't make it any more true in anyway.
Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence - Carl Sagan
Mankind's intelligence walks hand in hand with it's stupidity.
Being an atheist says nothing about your overall intelligence, it just means you don't believe in god. Atheists can be as bright as any scientist and as stupid as any creationist.
You never really know just how stupid someone is, until you've argued with them.
Mankind's intelligence walks hand in hand with it's stupidity.
Being an atheist says nothing about your overall intelligence, it just means you don't believe in god. Atheists can be as bright as any scientist and as stupid as any creationist.
You never really know just how stupid someone is, until you've argued with them.