RE: Why are you an Atheist?
December 18, 2019 at 3:57 pm
(This post was last modified: December 18, 2019 at 4:02 pm by Simon Moon.)
(December 18, 2019 at 2:28 pm)maxolla Wrote:(December 18, 2019 at 10:20 am)Mister Agenda Wrote: Any sufficiently advanced being could convince me it was God. As a mere mortal, I am not competent to tell the difference between God and any number of conceivable powerful beings capable of powerful feats or just manipulating my perceptions. For that matter, I can imagine having great difficulty telling God from a hallucinatory experience.
Even if God were real, there are logical problems with it being able to prove that it's the reputed tri-Omni deity that created all of existence (except itself because it was always there, for some reason or none). A real God couldn't do anything to convince us that aforementioned perception manipulators couldn't. It can't demonstrate that it's the tri-Omni Creator, it can only demonstrate that it's really powerful, or at least appears to be. Once you're above a certain level of power or illusion, we mortals can't tell the difference.
That said, I will gladly believe any reality or perception warper that claims to be God if it keeps it from torturing me.
I have to agree. If I believed that this God was like many have made him out to be I would have nothing to do with him and would decide not to believe in him. I would gather all the evidence I could muster to disprove his existence. I would pile it up so high nothing else could be seen. I would religiously worship that pile of rubbish faithfully every morning.
So much wrong with this paragraph, hard to know where to start...
Again, belief is not a decision, it is the result of being convinced. I did not make a decision not to believe in gods. I was compelled by the lack of sufficient evidence and reasoned argument, to disbelieve a god exists.
So, where should I go to get an accurate description of your god's behavior and actions, so I am able to get a correct depiction of him/her/it/they? All I see in the Old Testament, New Testament, is a god that: condones slavery, genocide, misogyny, homophobia, stoning unruly children to death, killing non-believers, killing 'witches', and more attrocities. What better source can you suggest?
It is not up to those of us that disbelieve gods exist, to 'gather up evidence' to disprove the existence of your god, whether we dislike said god's actions or not. Whether I believe or disbelieve a god exists, is completely separate from whether he acts morally or not.
I could be convinced a god exists, given demonstrable evidence and reasoned argument to support the claim, and still no worship said god. If the Christian god was demonstrated to exist, that doesn't mean I'd become a Christian.
Quote:For the most part man has constructed god in their image not the other way around. This construction is made of a being that is unbending, revengeful, and arbitrary. He has been depicted as a being willing and wanting to torcher those who disagree with him. However, this is a malconstruction and unsupported in scripture. Believe he exists or not, at least accept the fact that his character has been maligned from what scripture teaches.
So, according to your theology, as an atheist, if I were to die right now, what would my resultant afterlife look like?
You'd believe if you just opened your heart" is a terrible argument for religion. It's basically saying, "If you bias yourself enough, you can convince yourself that this is true." If religion were true, people wouldn't need faith to believe it -- it would be supported by good evidence.