(December 21, 2019 at 6:55 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:Quote:The theory of evolution isn’t monolithic as far as I know. New discoveries have been made which tweak the theory from time to time.
True, but trite. This is the case with all scientific theories, it is part of the self-correcting nature of science.
The same is true of any “ology” based in its nature of being the study of. This must include theology eschatology etc.
Quote:Can you apply the same standard to your own beliefs?
Yup.
Quote:BTW I threw out the idea of hell because I can’t find its scriptural basis not based on “proof”, whatever that is.
A cursory reading of scripture would seem to indicate that the people responsible for the Bible certainly did believe in a literal, eternal Hell. I respectfully suggest that the real reason you abandoned the idea of hell is that the notion of eternal torture is repugnant to you. And that's a good thing.
partly true but as i’ve said before, the translation from the original language does not express the original meaning. This is my main reason for abandonment.
Quote:Their is no proof of evolution
Other than watching it happen, you mean. Show me where we can watch it happen before our eyes. Is there any evidence now other than “scientific data”. I rely on biblical text you rely on scientific text or are you a scientist doing carbon dating etc?
Quote:but many people believe it because “science says so”,
This is probably true. But even if it is, it doesn't alter the fact that evolution is also accepted because it happens to be true.
Prove it!
Quote:even though scientists can’t even agree 100% on the age of the earth or anything else.
Bearing in mind that the percentage of scientists who disagree with fundamental scientific principles (such as biological evolution) is an insignificant number.
But I'm getting the feeling that you really don't grasp how sciences works. A certain level of disagreement is the basis of scientific progress - if all scientists agreed with each other always and about everything, science stops being science and becomes dogma.
All realms of study work off the better principle. As data comes in more understanding arrives. My reason for not believing in the big bang theory must have something to do with the name. I’ve never seen or heard of something going “bang” and ending in anything but rubble (laws of thermodynamics). Also, how is it that the first “forms of life” lived for billions of years and the most advanced can only live for less than 120 years? I have never seen something design itself. I have seen adaption but not evolutionary design. It just so happens that humans are designed with 2 eyes 2 ears. This is what allows visual and aural perspective as we know.
Boru
I see nothing around me that does not have design. Cars, planes, computers, people, animals, trees, and many others too many to list have design. If someone told us that planes and cars were part of the evolutionary process we’d all laugh. These are all feats of human design that don’t even compare in complexity to the human eye and processes of sight.
If things design themselves show me something that is designing itself. If it is designing itself, then it must be intelligent beyond human intelligence which can’t even build a computer that can rival a human brain. If it is not designing itself then what is the source behind its design?
Max