(December 21, 2019 at 2:29 pm)Rev. Rye Wrote:(December 20, 2019 at 8:43 am)Fake Messiah Wrote: As a side note, there was a Saint that was invented by Jews when in 1491, Jews being tortured by the Holy Inquisition in Spain were made to confess that they had sacrificed a Christian child in a cave near a village called La Guardia. They were burned, and all Jews in their community were murdered. The holy child of La Guardia became a religious legend—yet no such town, or sacrificed child, had existed.
Most of these stories I'm either familiar with or not surprised that they were claimed to have happened. But this story set off some alarm bells for me. That the Church would use a murder as a pretext to set off some good old-fashioned ethnic cleansing does not surprise me. That they'd make up a story out of whole cloth to justify pre-existing beliefs is well-documented. But the idea that they'd go so far as to make up a town really sets off my bullshit detector. So I looked it up. While the story does seem like a typical blood libel case, and while there isn't even any clear evidence that the Holy Child in question even existed, the town of La Guardia has existed for centuries, with documentation on it dating back to the 12th century, and to this day, it has a population of about 2329. Granted, it took a while for me to find this particular La Guardia (especially after filtering out the former New York mayor, the airport named after him, and the Basque village of more or less the same name), but the town, at least, did (and does) exist. To be fair, everything else you said is accurate,
In any case, it seems that the Archdiocese of Madrid's official website still claims how this really happened, that the boy existed and that Jews killed him
here's the original content in Spanish and google translate on the right
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https://oracionyliturgia.archimadrid.org...9-3-3-2-2/
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Quote:They took him to the place called La Hoz de la Guardia and specify the date: Good Friday. There, in the light of the fire, they slap the creature, spit on it, put a crown of thorns and whip its backs. The rite is done by pronouncing blasphemous spells. They crucify the child, take out his heart with a knife, and take his body to secretly bury a place near Santa María de Pera. The consecrated form for the magical sacrilegious rite that marked the death of the inquisitors - and of all the Christians - raging, was facilitated by Juan Gómez, taking her out of the church she had in her custody.
Not achieved the intended effect, they decide to take the child's heart with another ostia consecrated to Zamora where they know that an important wise Jew lives to perform the spell effectively. Surprised on the road, they confessed the fact. Result: Only the Jewish octogenarian Ça Franco was forgiven. Three had already died. Of the remaining seven, they were burned, some alive, and others –confessed and repentant–, already strangled, in the “Brasero de la Dehesa” in Ávila
teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"