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Another question for Christians
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RE: Another question for Christians
(October 19, 2011 at 4:53 am)CoxRox Wrote: Here's a question I'd like to put to deists- if you believe in an 'intelligence' or 'creator', do you ever 'ask' It, if It is bothered about what it creates? Do you ever ask: 'God/Creator, what/whoever you are, if you are listening, is this it? Do you care?'

Never.

I certainly can't speak for all deists universally, because I'm sure there's got to be some out there who choose to believe that God loves the human race, but the few deists I do know all share the same sentiment: We don't assign characteristics and a personality to God.

I have found that this is often the hardest thing for christians (and even some atheists) to accept, mostly because religion has engrained in all humans that a god has to be worshiped and that any god MUST love, protect and punish mankind. DP's reply sums it up nicely, and I would only add that this "personal relationship with god" that christians are always going on about is merely an affirmation of your own personal need to feel safe and protected upon your own demise.

I was a genuine christian for 15 horrible confusing years. It is not real. You do not have a personal relationship with god or his alleged son. If you did, you wouldn't need a book to find out what he has to say.
(October 20, 2011 at 11:41 pm)Minimalist Wrote:
Quote:My philosophy is that God gave us everything we need and the rest is up to us. Don't wait for miracles. Make your own.

We can do all that with no 'god' whatsoever.

I believe that was exactly his intention ... and indeed that would be the only true form of "free will."
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Another question for Christians - by DeistPaladin - October 16, 2011 at 7:25 pm
RE: Another question for Christians - by Minimalist - October 16, 2011 at 7:38 pm
RE: Another question for Christians - by Cinjin - October 16, 2011 at 9:17 pm
RE: Another question for Christians - by Godschild - October 16, 2011 at 11:59 pm
RE: Another question for Christians - by Erinome - October 17, 2011 at 12:19 am
RE: Another question for Christians - by Godschild - October 17, 2011 at 12:22 am
RE: Another question for Christians - by Cinjin - October 17, 2011 at 12:22 am
RE: Another question for Christians - by Godschild - October 17, 2011 at 3:16 pm
RE: Another question for Christians - by DeistPaladin - October 17, 2011 at 8:53 am
RE: Another question for Christians - by salty - October 24, 2011 at 10:38 am
RE: Another question for Christians - by frankiej - October 24, 2011 at 10:49 am
RE: Another question for Christians - by Ace Otana - October 24, 2011 at 1:11 pm
RE: Another question for Christians - by Cinjin - October 24, 2011 at 2:35 pm
RE: Another question for Christians - by Ace Otana - October 24, 2011 at 3:05 pm
RE: Another question for Christians - by Erinome - October 24, 2011 at 1:33 pm
RE: Another question for Christians - by DeistPaladin - October 24, 2011 at 2:04 pm
RE: Another question for Christians - by The Grand Nudger - October 16, 2011 at 10:07 pm
RE: Another question for Christians - by The Grand Nudger - October 17, 2011 at 12:36 am
RE: Another question for Christians - by Erinome - October 17, 2011 at 12:40 am
RE: Another question for Christians - by Godschild - October 17, 2011 at 3:47 pm
RE: Another question for Christians - by salty - October 19, 2011 at 5:12 am
RE: Another question for Christians - by KichigaiNeko - October 17, 2011 at 3:21 am
RE: Another question for Christians - by fr0d0 - October 17, 2011 at 6:20 am
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RE: Another question for Christians - by Erinome - October 17, 2011 at 6:39 am
RE: Another question for Christians - by fr0d0 - October 17, 2011 at 5:21 pm
RE: Another question for Christians - by The Grand Nudger - October 17, 2011 at 8:58 am
RE: Another question for Christians - by The Grand Nudger - October 17, 2011 at 3:24 pm
RE: Another question for Christians - by Godschild - October 17, 2011 at 3:53 pm
RE: Another question for Christians - by DeistPaladin - October 17, 2011 at 4:09 pm
RE: Another question for Christians - by Godschild - October 18, 2011 at 12:27 am
RE: Another question for Christians - by KichigaiNeko - October 18, 2011 at 2:46 am
RE: Another question for Christians - by DeistPaladin - October 18, 2011 at 9:26 am
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RE: Another question for Christians - by Cinjin - October 18, 2011 at 8:30 pm
RE: Another question for Christians - by DeistPaladin - October 20, 2011 at 11:24 pm
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RE: Another question for Christians - by Minimalist - October 17, 2011 at 10:01 pm
RE: Another question for Christians - by CoxRox - October 18, 2011 at 4:05 am
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RE: Another question for Christians - by CoxRox - October 18, 2011 at 4:52 pm
RE: Another question for Christians - by The Grand Nudger - October 18, 2011 at 10:35 am
RE: Another question for Christians - by Minimalist - October 18, 2011 at 12:04 pm
RE: Another question for Christians - by 5thHorseman - October 18, 2011 at 12:06 pm
RE: Another question for Christians - by Minimalist - October 18, 2011 at 2:42 pm
RE: Another question for Christians - by ElDinero - October 18, 2011 at 5:29 pm
RE: Another question for Christians - by CoxRox - October 19, 2011 at 4:53 am
RE: Another question for Christians - by Erinome - October 19, 2011 at 5:55 am
RE: Another question for Christians - by IATIA - October 19, 2011 at 8:44 pm
RE: Another question for Christians - by The Grand Nudger - October 18, 2011 at 5:43 pm
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RE: Another question for Christians - by Minimalist - October 18, 2011 at 9:02 pm
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RE: Another question for Christians - by CoxRox - October 21, 2011 at 12:56 pm
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RE: Another question for Christians - by CoxRox - October 21, 2011 at 2:49 pm
RE: Another question for Christians - by Cinjin - October 24, 2011 at 3:18 pm
RE: Another question for Christians - by DeistPaladin - October 21, 2011 at 1:17 pm
RE: Another question for Christians - by Cinjin - October 21, 2011 at 2:49 pm
RE: Another question for Christians - by CoxRox - October 21, 2011 at 2:50 pm
RE: Another question for Christians - by frankiej - October 21, 2011 at 3:06 pm
RE: Another question for Christians - by fr0d0 - October 21, 2011 at 5:11 pm
RE: Another question for Christians - by frankiej - October 21, 2011 at 5:15 pm
RE: Another question for Christians - by DeistPaladin - October 21, 2011 at 6:06 pm
RE: Another question for Christians - by KichigaiNeko - October 19, 2011 at 6:54 am
RE: Another question for Christians - by The Grand Nudger - October 19, 2011 at 8:54 am
RE: Another question for Christians - by Minimalist - October 19, 2011 at 7:29 pm
RE: Another question for Christians - by Minimalist - October 20, 2011 at 11:41 pm
RE: Another question for Christians - by Minimalist - October 21, 2011 at 5:20 pm
RE: Another question for Christians - by Ace Otana - October 21, 2011 at 5:34 pm
RE: Another question for Christians - by fr0d0 - October 21, 2011 at 6:54 pm
RE: Another question for Christians - by Minimalist - October 21, 2011 at 7:43 pm
RE: Another question for Christians - by ElDinero - October 22, 2011 at 12:06 am
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RE: Another question for Christians - by Zen Badger - October 22, 2011 at 7:03 am
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RE: Another question for Christians - by Captain Scarlet - October 22, 2011 at 7:20 am
RE: Another question for Christians - by Minimalist - October 24, 2011 at 11:03 am
RE: Another question for Christians - by fr0d0 - October 24, 2011 at 12:56 pm
RE: Another question for Christians - by Zen Badger - October 25, 2011 at 9:00 am
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RE: Another question for Christians - by ElDinero - October 22, 2011 at 7:34 am
RE: Another question for Christians - by The Grand Nudger - October 24, 2011 at 10:43 am
RE: Another question for Christians - by The Grand Nudger - October 24, 2011 at 10:51 am
RE: Another question for Christians - by ElDinero - October 24, 2011 at 10:58 am
RE: Another question for Christians - by frankiej - October 24, 2011 at 11:01 am
RE: Another question for Christians - by The Grand Nudger - October 24, 2011 at 11:29 am
RE: Another question for Christians - by The Grand Nudger - October 24, 2011 at 2:12 pm
RE: Another question for Christians - by Minimalist - October 24, 2011 at 4:12 pm
RE: Another question for Christians - by salty - October 25, 2011 at 9:10 am
RE: Another question for Christians - by KichigaiNeko - October 25, 2011 at 9:16 am
RE: Another question for Christians - by salty - October 27, 2011 at 10:05 am
RE: Another question for Christians - by The Grand Nudger - October 25, 2011 at 11:02 am
RE: Another question for Christians - by Minimalist - October 25, 2011 at 4:42 pm
RE: Another question for Christians - by Cyberman - October 25, 2011 at 6:49 pm
RE: Another question for Christians - by The Grand Nudger - October 25, 2011 at 4:50 pm
RE: Another question for Christians - by The Grand Nudger - October 25, 2011 at 6:55 pm
RE: Another question for Christians - by KichigaiNeko - October 28, 2011 at 9:58 am

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