Abortion: 10 years as an atheist and I still don't get it

[Agnostico]

What the fuck is wrong with you?

Knowledge i guess...  Some cesarian births are done for the sole reason of pussy stretch. Look it up if u don't believe me. A vagina changes totally after childbirth

I'm glad that we're establishing more specific grounds for an immoral act.

I established that conscious act was a part of it in my argument already

It may even be that consciously causing pain isn't enough to establish that something is an immoral act

I made this clear in my argument. It must be a conscious act that causes harm for it to be immoral. Yes there are some rare acceptations
An unconscious act causing harm is usually an accident

I tend to still follow the morals of scripture seeing its got western society this far and there isn't much wrong with it. 
Some atheist want to scrap all that. How then would we define what is moral without it just becoming peoples subjective opinions?

3 minutes into this video has a good explanation of how to discern a moral act from an immoral one without using religion.

Of course inflicting pain can be immoral. But since we agree that it isn’t ALWAYS immoral, your assertion fails, as it becomes evident that not all abortions are immoral

I didn't assert that all abortions were immoral, Im just showing how some can be viewed by people as immoral
Your statement that not all abortions are immoral shows me that you are aware how some abortions can be immoral

We won't change each others minds but it looks like we understand each other i think. That's really all i can hope to achieve, understanding