RE: Abortion: 10 years as an atheist and I still don't get it
February 25, 2020 at 6:11 pm
(This post was last modified: February 25, 2020 at 6:23 pm by The Architect Of Fate.)
Quote:Its amusing to see atheists rationalize abortion with all kinds of analogies,Nah there is nothing amusing about producing sound pro choice .But it is funny to watch dishonest apologists like you lie about it
Quote:the underlying reasoning being that the infant's life is less worth than the mother's.
Nope wrong
Quote: All this just to comfortably have more sex.Wrong
Quote:You are senseless murderers at the baby scale.
Nope but your dishonest
Quote:The more mature murderers who understood atheism better are the kind of exemplary leaders like Pol Pot, Mao Zedong, etc. and the pyramids of skulls associated with their names.Atheism can never be blamed for any of these men and Islam has produced plenty of mass murdering psychopaths so STFU
Quote:How can you justify killing millions of bacteria when you shower, atheists? Aren't they life too?That question is actually for you
Quote:My point should be clear,As clear as mud
Quote:I think. Only a superior moral reference can settle this issue.
No one cares what an apologist hack thinks and you possess no such morality
Quote:Avoiding this fact runs into problems,
Yup which is you problem not ours
Quote: abortion is one instance when one simply can't have a coherent justification for ending the infant's life without earning the murderer title.Nope you most certainly can
Quote:Of course there are. Wars happen, you know. And remember that everything in the Qur'an presupposes the existence of God, as an ultimate source of morality.No one gives a damn what your pimative book of bullshit presupposes
Quote:Your system can't possibly make the distinction between the human life and any other form of life,
Atheism isn't a system and yes an atheist can .It's Theism that lacks any justification of why we should give a damn
Quote: and if you try and do that you're just borrowing religious ideals.Nope these are not you ideals nor can you justify them
Quote:From a materialist point of view nothing makes one more special than any virus or bacteria or living cell out there. And we can't do better than that unless we start elevating our own status.All false .It's Theism tha fails at this
Quote:No pal, abortion is a really dark spot in your worldview as atheists.Aheism isn't a worldview it's rejection of one .And pro choice is a light spot on the other hand Islams desire to have domination over women is your dark spot
Quote: There is no way for you to defend it in a coherent way and, deep down, you know it's immoral to end a human life, which includes foetuses.Yes there is and your attempts at playing mind reader fails
(February 25, 2020 at 5:22 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote:Explaining REAL morality to a delusional goddist is futile .They are to brainwashed to get it .(February 25, 2020 at 11:40 am)Klorophyll Wrote: Your system can't possibly make the distinction between the human life and any other form of life, and if you try and do that you're just borrowing religious ideals.
From a materialist point of view nothing makes one more special than any virus or bacteria or living cell out there. And we can't do better than that unless we start elevating our own status.
Sure it can. I don't believe in gods, I know that there are different kinds of life. Why did you think this would be difficult?
Now we're on to materialism. It's important to point out that atheists don't have to be materialists, but it's no more difficult for a materialist to offer a set of value judgements than it is for you to do the same. None of these things you're asking about are problems. Who told you they were? Why would they be?
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“No matter what men think, abortion is a fact of life. Women have always had them; they always have and they always will. Are they going to have good ones or bad ones? Will the good ones be reserved for the rich, while the poor women go to quacks?”
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“No matter what men think, abortion is a fact of life. Women have always had them; they always have and they always will. Are they going to have good ones or bad ones? Will the good ones be reserved for the rich, while the poor women go to quacks?”
–SHIRLEY CHISHOLM