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Here is why you should believe in God.
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RE: Here is why you should believe in God.
(March 27, 2020 at 12:16 pm)Ceceli Wrote: 1. If we assume the Abrahamic God exists (for the sake of this argument) we also must accept that God has his own nature.  Otherwise he is a cruel and unjust god punishing people arbitrarily because they go against his wishes (which themselves are arbitrary)

Can you elaborate on what you mean by "own nature" ?
Whatever you think God's wishes are, you're not exactly in a position to complain. He's God, you're not, live with it. God created free will, he's not responsible for your screw ups.

(March 27, 2020 at 12:16 pm)Ceceli Wrote: 2. If God does not have his own nature, his rules are entirely arbitrary and meaningless.  If God DOES have his own nature, he must have his own natural laws.  This clearly warrants its own lawgiver.

Again, you can call any rule *arbitrary and meaningless* when it doesn't please your ego. And God possesses all the absolute propertes by definition, his existence doesn't warrant any additional explanation.

(March 27, 2020 at 12:16 pm)Ceceli Wrote: 3. Ergo, God also has a law giver who created his nature.

4. So who's God's lawgiver?  Does he not know?  Or does he simply believe he does not have one?

The "who created god?" question or the one you're asking were debunked thousands of time already. Only finite entities with incomplete attributes need an external agent to account for their existence, because they weren't always there. That's not true of an entity that is the answer to contradictions arising from infinite regress.
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Here is why you should believe in God. - by R00tKiT - March 26, 2020 at 1:48 pm
RE: Here is why you should believe in God. - by Duty - March 26, 2020 at 1:57 pm
RE: Here is why you should believe in God. - by Duty - March 27, 2020 at 9:08 am
RE: Here is why you should believe in God. - by no one - March 26, 2020 at 1:59 pm
RE: Here is why you should believe in God. - by brewer - March 26, 2020 at 2:11 pm
RE: Here is why you should believe in God. - by R00tKiT - March 26, 2020 at 5:21 pm
RE: Here is why you should believe in God. - by Brian37 - March 26, 2020 at 4:15 pm
RE: Here is why you should believe in God. - by chimp3 - March 26, 2020 at 4:51 pm
RE: Here is why you should believe in God. - by ignoramus - March 26, 2020 at 7:00 pm
RE: Here is why you should believe in God. - by R00tKiT - March 26, 2020 at 7:18 pm
RE: Here is why you should believe in God. - by R00tKiT - March 27, 2020 at 7:46 am
RE: Here is why you should believe in God. - by R00tKiT - March 27, 2020 at 10:48 am
RE: Here is why you should believe in God. - by Duty - March 27, 2020 at 11:15 am
RE: Here is why you should believe in God. - by R00tKiT - March 27, 2020 at 11:54 am
RE: Here is why you should believe in God. - by Duty - March 27, 2020 at 1:59 pm
RE: Here is why you should believe in God. - by R00tKiT - April 1, 2020 at 2:41 pm
RE: Here is why you should believe in God. - by Duty - April 1, 2020 at 4:27 pm
RE: Here is why you should believe in God. - by R00tKiT - April 1, 2020 at 4:30 pm
RE: Here is why you should believe in God. - by Gwaithmir - March 27, 2020 at 11:18 am
RE: Here is why you should believe in God. - by Duty - March 27, 2020 at 11:40 am
RE: Here is why you should believe in God. - by Cecelia - March 27, 2020 at 12:16 pm
RE: Here is why you should believe in God. - by R00tKiT - March 27, 2020 at 12:57 pm
RE: Here is why you should believe in God. - by Rahn127 - March 29, 2020 at 1:27 am
RE: Here is why you should believe in God. - by Gwaithmir - March 29, 2020 at 6:42 am
RE: Here is why you should believe in God. - by R00tKiT - April 1, 2020 at 3:38 pm
RE: Here is why you should believe in God. - by R00tKiT - April 1, 2020 at 4:24 pm
RE: Here is why you should believe in God. - by R00tKiT - April 1, 2020 at 5:26 pm
RE: Here is why you should believe in God. - by R00tKiT - April 1, 2020 at 7:45 pm
RE: Here is why you should believe in God. - by R00tKiT - April 4, 2020 at 5:33 pm
RE: Here is why you should believe in God. - by R00tKiT - April 4, 2020 at 8:10 pm
RE: Here is why you should believe in God. - by no one - April 2, 2020 at 11:51 am
RE: Here is why you should believe in God. - by Grandizer - April 2, 2020 at 11:14 pm
RE: Here is why you should believe in God. - by R00tKiT - April 4, 2020 at 7:27 pm
RE: Here is why you should believe in God. - by no one - April 4, 2020 at 11:55 pm
RE: Here is why you should believe in God. - by R00tKiT - April 5, 2020 at 9:33 am
RE: Here is why you should believe in God. - by R00tKiT - April 5, 2020 at 10:19 am
RE: Here is why you should believe in God. - by R00tKiT - April 5, 2020 at 10:51 am
RE: Here is why you should believe in God. - by no one - April 5, 2020 at 11:26 am
RE: Here is why you should believe in God. - by R00tKiT - April 7, 2020 at 1:28 pm
RE: Here is why you should believe in God. - by R00tKiT - April 7, 2020 at 5:47 pm
RE: Here is why you should believe in God. - by R00tKiT - April 7, 2020 at 7:53 pm
RE: Here is why you should believe in God. - by R00tKiT - April 7, 2020 at 2:25 pm
RE: Here is why you should believe in God. - by R00tKiT - April 7, 2020 at 3:08 pm
RE: Here is why you should believe in God. - by R00tKiT - April 7, 2020 at 3:37 pm
RE: Here is why you should believe in God. - by R00tKiT - April 7, 2020 at 8:21 pm

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