(April 1, 2020 at 5:26 pm)Klorophyll Wrote: Back to descriptive laws, however you label them. They're still there, instead of no law at all. A lawless universe, that is, a universe where nothing follows any intelligible pattern, is clearly a universe worse than the one we have we have. If it is theoretically possible for a universe to be worse than ours, how come we have better one.. in the absence of a lawgiver.. ?
Wow, so because there are so called laws of nature there must be a god because he gave us laws like to kill all of our firstborn male children (yes, human sacrifice) Exodus 22:29 and 34:19.
And also God failed to mention any of those laws of nature. I mean imagine how easier human life would have been if he mentioned laws of nature instead of saying not to boil a young goat in its mother's milk. Exodus 34:26
Also there is no reason why the laws of physics cannot have come from within the universe itself. And they all lead humans to follow to the symmetries of the void out of which the universe spontaneously arose without any miracle or divine intervention.
teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
