RE: Care to Seriously Consider the Existance of a Creator (God)?
April 26, 2020 at 5:17 pm
(This post was last modified: April 26, 2020 at 5:18 pm by Peebothuhlu.)
(April 26, 2020 at 12:40 pm)theMadJW Wrote:(April 26, 2020 at 11:56 am)zebo-the-fat Wrote: OK, give us FACTS (with supporting evidence)
If a god created everything who or what created that god?
If a god created the universe (that is everything that exists) then where was he/it before he created everything?
I do not pretend to know everything- do YOU?
Fact is all things HAVE been created- otherwise there would be nothing but un-organized matter.
Except it is you who are claiming 'Facts'. So this would seem to be an example of "Shifting the burden of proof"
(April 26, 2020 at 2:15 pm)theMadJW Wrote: So-are you telling me NONE of you see how molecules are used to form many specific kinds of cells- all ORGANIZED and WORKING TOGETHER- to perform FUNCTIONS?
These sentences do not actually follow.
We already see many cases of molecules 'Self organizing' with nothing but chemistry and physics interacting upon hem.
That you fail to acknowledge the muti-tiered system simply adding to itself (I speak very generally here for brevity) indicates an argument from incredulity.
(April 26, 2020 at 2:40 pm)theMadJw Wrote: Rhizomorph13I'm going to treat this seriously. Maybe we can at least present the information on what science thinks on the matter? I'm betting we will get horse-laughed, straw-manned, and maybe even some tu quoque. But I'm open to it.
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I have to wait to post science graphics, since I'm new here look forward to it!
To deny our bodies, for example. were designed, is to imply we are the result of uncountable accidents all happening at the right time, in the right order.
I am not denying 'Design'. I am failing to see anything 'Inteligent' about such things.
Since, given the ample evidence of mutations both within an organism as it lives as well as mutations happening as they breed on top of simple gene shuffing and environmental/social pressures gives ample mechanisms for life to change over time.
If there is an inteligence 'Behind' the design? Then we can infer that it is incompetent, lazy and (In the case of parasitaztion) down right mean and nasty.
(April 26, 2020 at 4:57 pm)theMadJW Wrote: So, if you claim to understand something, having facts to back you up- that's being egotistical?
C'mon, me friend! You KNOW better!
Again, you shift the burden of proof.
You opened the thread claiming 'Proof' and 'Facts'.
So far neither have been forthcomming.
So, your facts please.
Awesome! That posting method worked!
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