God is a Mass Murderer

[The Architect Of Fate]

Oh dear this is going to need some serious corrections

 USSR -                                                                                                     Cuba -
Began with the bolshevik revolution                                                            Began with the bolshevik revolution
Did not integrate to preexisting structures                                                   Did not integrate to preexisting structures
State owned structures                                                                              State owned structures
A dictatorship      

These countries are no Socialist .They aren't communist either .They were state capitalist

China -                                                                                                   Venezuela -
Began with a revolution                                                                            Began with a revolution
Did not integrate to preexisting structures                                                  Did not integrate to preexisting structures

State owned structures                                                                             State owned structures
Dictatorship                                                                                            Dictatorship

Neither of these counties are socialist .China is state capitalist now and even during Mao's time it wasn't communist it was state capitalist , And Venezuela isn't socialist ethier it's also state capitalist 

Your criteria
Capitalist structures... Incorrect
Democracy...             Incorrect
No revolution...          Incorrect
Preexisting system...  Incorrect

My criteria is fine your definition of what a socialist country is at fualt

Name a socialist country that meets your nonsensical criteria.

None because no socialist country exists at all. The ones called socialist countries aren't 

Communism is a Marx concept of a utopia. It says that the public have equal shares in companies whose profits are equally divided

No it's not . Communism is worker ownership of the means of production and it's not utopian as Marx made it clear struggle is needed

This is basically what i was trying to say, each person contributes and receives according to their ability and needs. Its Marx's utopia

Definition - Basically, communism proposes a society in which everyone shares the benefits of labor equally, and eliminates the class system through redistribution of on income.

That's not utopian and nowhere does it say everyone gets the same so no your still wrong

Definition - A communist society is characterized by common ownership of the means of production with free access to the articles of consumption and is classless and stateless, implying the end of the exploitation of labour.

This is again wrong it's not common ownership it's WORKER ownership of the means of production .

Definition - a theory or system of social organization in which all property is owned by the community and each person contributes and receives according to their ability and needs

Note nowhere does it say everyone gets the same and community does though again thy confuse community with workers ownership

God these are some awful definitions you copy and pasted from

Contradictory

Yes i was that was my point they didn't live up to the ideal 

Strawman. I didn't say Marx believed in communism

Nor did i say you said that . Of course Marx believed in his own system.

Basically what I said anyway after all the antagonizing rubbish

Actually no i pointed out your errors

There was no racism in Italy, Spain or Portugal

Actually their was .


Fascist  Italy had race laws and treated the non white  people in it's North African holdings  as second class citizens .It also maintained laws against Sicilians And Italy engaged in ethnic cleansing during the war . And Spain had Anti Semitic legislation made as early as 1938 ,

Fascist Spain treated  racial minorities in Spain as second class citizens and treated the non white people of it's moroccan holdings as second class citizens . Not to mention Franco fully accepted he idea of international Jewry the same as Hitler and despite what he would later claim he help the nazi's catch Jews and send them to occupied france .Franco also rolled back protections for Jews

Fascist   Portugal treated  racial minorities in  Portugal   as second class citizens and many of it's colonial laws were racist .

Public

Nope Private 
 

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Lets compare the Socialist countries we know to your criteria

I think we have to deal with these leftist ideologies almost as we deal with Christianity: there is huge variety within them, and no one agrees on what the "real" version consists of.

Fighting among different branches of communists has been about as vicious as commies vs. others. I saw the room in Mexico where Trotsky was killed -- you can still see the icepick marks from where his former colleagues assassinated him.

So for example a lot of commies would say that no country has ever achieved communism. The Soviet Union maybe tried, but failed. The others ended up with various kinds of oligarchies or top-down rule. Certainly the workers' utopia that Marx wanted has never existed. It may be that the failure of all the attempts means that such a utopia is impossible, but that's not really something we can know for sure. (I like to joke that perfect communism is possible if you have a group of only 13 people, and one of them is Jesus.) 

Apparently Marx said, "I am not a Marxist," meaning that even in his lifetime what people were doing in his name didn't have his approval. 

I suspect that in ideologies as in religion, some people are not willing to accept that there are variations. The OP wants to claim that Christianity is only a certain way -- the way he wants to criticize. Maybe Sungula wants to make similar claims about communism -- he KNOWS what it is. But there will be lots of commies who call themselves commies who refuse to accept any checklist of things we write up for them.

1. I didn't say there wasn't variety

2.No country really even tried

3. Stalin had Trotsky killed not over ideology  but because Stalin feared Trotsky influence

4. Lastly i never said there was no disagreement