Quote:Fact - USSR - Union of Soviet SOCIALIST RepublicsA country something doesn't make it that thing .The USSR may have called itself socialist but in reality i was state capitalist
SUNGULA Wrote:Neither of these counties are socialist .China is state capitalist now and even during Mao's time it wasn't communist it was state capitalist , And Venezuela isn't socialist ethier it's also state capitalistRight
SUNGULA Wrote:My criteria is fine your definition of what a socialist country is at fualtYes
None because no socialist country exists at all. The ones called socialist countries aren't
SUNGULA Wrote:No it's not . Communism is worker ownership of the means of production and it's not utopian as Marx made it clear struggle is neededCorrect
That's not utopian and nowhere does it say everyone gets the same so no your still wrong
SUNGULA Wrote:Yes i was that was my point they didn't live up to the idealTrue
Nor did i say you said that . Of course Marx believed in his own system.
Actually no i pointed out your errors
SUNGULA Wrote:Actually their was .Yup
Fascist Italy had race laws and treated the non white people in it's North African holdings as second class citizens .It also maintained laws against Sicilians And Italy engaged in ethnic cleansing during the war . And Spain had Anti Semitic legislation made as early as 1938 ,
Fascist Spain treated racial minorities in Spain as second class citizens and treated the non white people of it's moroccan holdings as second class citizens . Not to mention Franco fully accepted he idea of international Jewry the same as Hitler and despite what he would later claim he help the nazi's catch Jews and send them to occupied france .Franco also rolled back protections for Jews
Fascist Portugal treated racial minorities in Portugal as second class citizens and many of it's colonial laws were racist
SUNGULA Wrote:1. I didn't say there wasn't varietyFactual
2.No country really even tried
3. Stalin had Trotsky killed not over ideology but because Stalin feared Trotsky influence
4. Lastly i never said there was no disagreement
SUNGULA Wrote:Nope i simply respond to what you say and you deem any criticism antagonism
Nope i have not contradicted myself at any time . You keep repeating this silly idea .
Nope i don' hate you i just think your constantly wrong and seem weird delusion i just contradict you for no reason
Yup
Quote:Socialism - any economic or political system based on government ownership and control of important businesses and methods of productionNope i already defined it perfectly this definition is poor
Quote:Communism - an economic system based on public ownership of property and control of the methods of production, and in which no person profits from the work ofReplace public with worker owned and this would be correct
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