(May 17, 2020 at 1:37 pm)Klorophyll Wrote:(May 17, 2020 at 1:28 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: it is vital to redefine the Prophet’s words to mean as many different things as needed to make the prophecy work.
Redefine ? Every variant I gave is quoted from renowned collections of authentic hadiths. Authentic. Many variants help understand the full meaning, they don't really change it.
(May 17, 2020 at 1:28 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: For other prophecies, like the plague one, we can only use the specific, modern definition of the words, because that makes the prophecy work.
The plague even in its specific sense is not modern, it's alluded to in the OT.
Nonsense. How is a rain of frogs a ‘plague’ in the modern sense? Or an invasion of insects? Or a river turning to blood? Even the ‘plague’ that killed the livestock and the firstborn are not well enough described in the OT to qualify specifically as ‘plague’ in the modern sense.
What you’re doing is applying different standards of meaning to the words of the two prophecies. That is, to say the least, disingenuous (to say the most, it’s dishonest).
Boru
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