Quote:Peebo-Thuhlu
My reply would be "I do not know."
You do not know of the plausible and general explanations for the origins of reality? You have never thought of what it could be? Is this because of a lack of curiosity or imagination? Surely, you've read some philosophy or cosmology?
Quote:So... this is an assertion.
Yes. I strongly believe and state that not anything cannot produce something, just like I strongly believe and state that 2 + 2 = 4 or that there are no married bachelors. To say not anything can produce something is logically incoherent and for you to entertain the idea simply because you want to avoid God is sad.
Quote:As far as my limited understanind of cosmology is those who study such things are actually saying that "We can 'See' to a certain point in time and space. Anything before that is still 'Guess work' and being intensly scrutinized." At no point to they actually say 'Nothing'.
If not anything did not produce something, then you need to go to the second explanation that I outlined in my original post.
Quote:This is an interesting idea... what is it based upon, however? Just your 'Instinct' and.or 'feelings'?
No, it's based on what the definition of eternal means.
Quote:Ther might be more than just those two, perhaps?
There isn't. But I'm all ears. Can you think of another explanation?
Quote:There is also the actual fact that we actually have evidece (A functional hypothesis) within our reality of litterally something (Matter in the form of particles) comming into existance where previously no particles existed before.
A quantum vacuum isn't not anything. If you believe the quantum vacuum is past-eternal, then refer to the issues I brought up in the second explanation.
Quote:We also have actual, direct evidence of 'Things' happening with no preceeding cause for their effect.
Oh, so you don't believe in the law of cause and effect? There exists effects that are uncaused? Or are you saying there's a backwards causality? If you believe the former, then it will be impossible for science to completely describe the natural world. You're essentially saying you believe in bubbles of magic that science will never be able to explain. Maybe God is in one of these magical bubbles? As for the latter, there's still a cause and an effect, so don't see an issue.
