RE: God Exists
May 31, 2020 at 12:43 pm
(This post was last modified: May 31, 2020 at 12:44 pm by possibletarian.)
(May 31, 2020 at 12:21 pm)brokenreflector Wrote:(May 31, 2020 at 4:05 am)Grandizer Wrote: Then why assume there was anything other than material before the universe ?
Because we're talking about all physicality. A physical reality producing all physical reality is a logical contradiction.
What do you mean by 'produced ' ?
(May 31, 2020 at 12:14 pm)Nomad Wrote:(May 30, 2020 at 11:40 pm)brokenreflector Wrote: By God I mean a necessary, non-physical, and personal being who created all things: seen, unseen, discovered, and undiscovered. Being a Christian, I believe God is more than that, but this post is about the general concept of God.
Have you any evidence for your assertion?
Quote:First explanation. Ultimately, nonbeing produced being. The problem with this explanation should be obvious. How could nonbeing produce being? What would be producing it? Nonbeing is the absence of any kind of existence.
Oh, dear the "everything must have a creator" assertion. Fine then, what created god?
Quote:Second explanation. Something is past-eternal. This something could be the universe, multiverse, or one of its constituents. Or it could be something else entirely. Let's call it X. X would need to exist and there was never a point where the proposition "X exists" was false.[citation needed]
Oh, and I'm sorry referring to the arguments of William Lane Craig, who knows exactly nothing of physics or the origins of the universe, is not evidence. He makes statements contstantly that he can't back up and is pretty much stuck with lying for Jeebus.
(May 30, 2020 at 11:57 pm)brokenreflector Wrote: This argument is purely based on reason and contemporary science.
No it isn't your argument is pure creationist nonsense with added "sciency" words. Not one bit of actual science is used, nor is reason within an asses roar of it.
Isn't this what they call 'weasel words , ?
'Those who ask a lot of questions may seem stupid, but those who don't ask questions stay stupid'