God Exists

[Mister Agenda]

Have you now.
And that tells me you are ignorant.

If, as you claim, you have been "owning" atheists for a long time, then you MUST have encountered the problem with the tri-omni crap before.

It is hard to know where to start since you are being very coy about which one of the many thousands of claimed deities you favour.

But we can make a start. Would you agree that omniscience means that god knows all. Knows the past, present and future precisely? Or have you some other heterodox definition you are using?

This is a very long-winded cop-out. You claimed that there are logical contradictions in the definition of God and I'm asking you what they are. I'm giving you the ball.

There are the paradoxes that come with omnipotence; like making a rock so heavy the omnipotent creator can't lift it; or creating a being even more powerful. At this point apologists usually retreat to omnipotence as the ability to do anything that's logically possible; can't square a circle or be a married bachelor or make a rock it can't lift or make something more powerful than itself.

Personally, I think it's more significant that omniscience and omnipotence contradict each other. An omnipotent being necessarily has free will; it must be able to do anything it wants to, else why call it omnipotent? But an omniscient being that can foresee the future can't do anything it hasn't foreseen, else it's not really omniscient. The Muslims usually limit God's omniscience rather than God's omnipotence, Allah can know anything it wants to; but Allah doesn't know everything all the time. In that respect, Allah's 'omniscience' is part of Allah's omnipotence. I'm always interested in seeing which leg of theodicy tripod apologists will cut short trying to justify their deity's omni-power. Drich for instance, shortens the leg of omnibenevolence.

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Nah, sorry bro. If God exists, then He created you and is therefore your creator and God. You better start crying into your pillow now.

You seem to be evading Nudger's question of why would he want to worship your version of God, even it IS real. I recommend you try 'God will make him suffer forever and ever in eternal wretched writhing torment' if he doesn't convert to your religion. That's a popular one.

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Nah, sorry bro. If God exists, then He created you and is therefore your creator and God. You better start crying into your pillow now.

I'm afraid that's just not how fealty works.  There really isn't much more to say about this.  If you don't have any way of convincing me (or others) to accept your lord and savior, then no amount of arguing that it exists is useful or relevant.

I think his plan is to get you to believe it's real first and worry about convincing you Christianity is a worthwhile religion after. I don't think he has many selling points for his religion unless the omnipotent creator of the universe is around to enforce it.