RE: A really hard question on Satan and deception.
October 26, 2011 at 9:51 am
(This post was last modified: October 26, 2011 at 10:19 am by Greatest I am.)
Oops.[
I agree.
Strange how Christianity took the Jewish view of Eden as our elevation and flip it around to our fall.
More $$$$$$ in raising the fallen than looking with pride on the elevated I guess.
Regards
DL
GIa Wrote:Are you somehow immune to Satan, who can deceive the whole world?
Yes as I said christians have a relationship with God, we know Him personally and will see through satans attempts to deceive.
Scriptures do not say attempt. They say can and will.
Your personal relationship with your God, for all you can know, can be a deception.
You somehow thing that by distorting God word you can by pass deception but that is not what your bible says. Read what it says. Not what you want it to say.
Then again, I like you, think that many passages are lies.
-------------------------------
“ Having good morals will not give you a relationship with Christ, you can do all the good you can stand but you will still belong to satan.”
Interesting. Again, you read what you want to hear in scripture and not what is written.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ztDgyOKej...r_embedded
--------------------------------------
“God is not the deceiver, satan is, and God in His righteousness will keep safe those who accept Him from satans deceptions.”
You said I should read the Bible. Perhaps you should read it as written and not as what you want to hear.
And as to reading it, you tell me to at the same time that you distort what it says. WTH.
Now, therefore, behold, the Lord hath put a lying spirit in the mouth of these thy prophets, and the Lord hath spoken evil concerning thee.
1Kings 22:23
Now therefore, behold, the Lord hath put a lying spirit in the mouth of these thy prophets.
2 Chron 18:22
Ah, Lord GOD! surely thou hast greatly deceived this people.
Jer 4:10
O Lord, thou hast deceived me, and I was deceived. Jer 20:7
And if a prophet be deceived when he hath spoken a thing, I the Lord have deceived that prophet.
Ezekiel 14:9
For this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie.
Thessalonians 2:11
Regards
DL
(October 19, 2011 at 11:31 pm)IATIA Wrote: They cannot tell the difference. Satan has never lied or deceived in the babble-book. All he did was to piss off god. He freed Adam and Eve from their enslavement. So, the xtians are already deceived by their god and worshiping the wrong one.
I agree.
Strange how Christianity took the Jewish view of Eden as our elevation and flip it around to our fall.
More $$$$$$ in raising the fallen than looking with pride on the elevated I guess.
Regards
DL
(October 20, 2011 at 2:02 am)Godschild Wrote: [
GIa Wrote:Are you somehow immune to Satan, who can deceive the whole world?
Yes as I said christians have a relationship with God, we know Him personally and will see through satans attempts to deceive.
Scriptures do not say attempt. They say can and will.
Your personal relationship with your God, for all you can know, can be a deception.
You somehow thing that by distorting God word you can by pass deception but that is not what your bible says. Read what it says. Not what you want it to say.
Then again, I like you, think that many passages are lies.
-------------------------------
“ Having good morals will not give you a relationship with Christ, you can do all the good you can stand but you will still belong to satan.”
Interesting. Again, you read what you want to hear in scripture and not what is written.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ztDgyOKej...r_embedded
--------------------------------------
“God is not the deceiver, satan is, and God in His righteousness will keep safe those who accept Him from satans deceptions.”
You said I should read the Bible. Perhaps you should read it as written and not as what you want to hear.
And as to reading it, you tell me to at the same time that you distort what it says. WTH.
Now, therefore, behold, the Lord hath put a lying spirit in the mouth of these thy prophets, and the Lord hath spoken evil concerning thee.
1Kings 22:23
Now therefore, behold, the Lord hath put a lying spirit in the mouth of these thy prophets.
2 Chron 18:22
Ah, Lord GOD! surely thou hast greatly deceived this people.
Jer 4:10
O Lord, thou hast deceived me, and I was deceived. Jer 20:7
And if a prophet be deceived when he hath spoken a thing, I the Lord have deceived that prophet.
Ezekiel 14:9
For this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie.
Thessalonians 2:11
Regards
DL
