RE: The Lady Doth Protest Too Much, Methinks - Hysterical White Middle Class BLM Activism
June 24, 2020 at 1:07 pm
(This post was last modified: June 24, 2020 at 1:38 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
I can't help but continue the exchange, while we wait for other posters to process new information.
The quote comes from a hilariously testy argument between antagonists. A black child, a moor, has issued forth from the queens white loins, and the nursemaid accuses our moor of having ruined her - and that was the subtext of his response (as well as many others). Her adult children rush into the scene. All of them..mind, the queen, the moor, her children, engaged in what can only be described as a psychotically murderous criminal conspiracy. One of the children asks. Villain, what have you done to my mother?
Villain...I have done thy mother.
It's interesting that shakespeare wrote this part the way he did. Going so far as to have the moor break the fourth wall and comment on the word moor, and what he thinks about it. Interesting because, on the one hand..shakespeare is entirely likely to have been ludicrously racist by todays standards (it wasn't really a thing for them, except in that racial superiority was assumed as a matter of course). Ws he grappling with something like racial awareness? Probably not..because..on the other, the character in the play has no discernible motivation for being a villain. More that he wanders from one heinous act to another, his blackness standing in for all things black, and thus, evil. This much is explicitly stated in the script. His only regret as he approaches execution is, as he puts it, that he could not do a thousand more bad things. Another great monologue, if you're the type that reads it.
But, sure, tell me again how we have no biases, as we make a thread with the title of a statement about ladies who say no, and then laughingly joke about calling people things that literally are racial biases, as exemplified so wonderfully in our culture's literary tradition...by the same fucking author.
There's no getting rid of our biases, it's not humanly possible, and we have them..as another poster has already explained, because we are human. Like a gruesome matryoshka doll, no sooner have we peeled off one than another appears nestled within us, ad infinitum. The trick is to know that, and know ourselves, and prevent those biases from influencing our decision making and our positions on issues, including issues of fact. We may find this insulting. Condescending, even...but that matters very little if we then proceed to immediately demonstrate it's truth.
Holding such biases may not mean that we are racists, but the transition to that state most certainly lies in the confluence of denying their very existence while they actively damage our peers.
The quote comes from a hilariously testy argument between antagonists. A black child, a moor, has issued forth from the queens white loins, and the nursemaid accuses our moor of having ruined her - and that was the subtext of his response (as well as many others). Her adult children rush into the scene. All of them..mind, the queen, the moor, her children, engaged in what can only be described as a psychotically murderous criminal conspiracy. One of the children asks. Villain, what have you done to my mother?
Villain...I have done thy mother.
It's interesting that shakespeare wrote this part the way he did. Going so far as to have the moor break the fourth wall and comment on the word moor, and what he thinks about it. Interesting because, on the one hand..shakespeare is entirely likely to have been ludicrously racist by todays standards (it wasn't really a thing for them, except in that racial superiority was assumed as a matter of course). Ws he grappling with something like racial awareness? Probably not..because..on the other, the character in the play has no discernible motivation for being a villain. More that he wanders from one heinous act to another, his blackness standing in for all things black, and thus, evil. This much is explicitly stated in the script. His only regret as he approaches execution is, as he puts it, that he could not do a thousand more bad things. Another great monologue, if you're the type that reads it.
But, sure, tell me again how we have no biases, as we make a thread with the title of a statement about ladies who say no, and then laughingly joke about calling people things that literally are racial biases, as exemplified so wonderfully in our culture's literary tradition...by the same fucking author.
There's no getting rid of our biases, it's not humanly possible, and we have them..as another poster has already explained, because we are human. Like a gruesome matryoshka doll, no sooner have we peeled off one than another appears nestled within us, ad infinitum. The trick is to know that, and know ourselves, and prevent those biases from influencing our decision making and our positions on issues, including issues of fact. We may find this insulting. Condescending, even...but that matters very little if we then proceed to immediately demonstrate it's truth.
Holding such biases may not mean that we are racists, but the transition to that state most certainly lies in the confluence of denying their very existence while they actively damage our peers.
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