RE: Is there free will in heaven?
October 27, 2011 at 9:23 am
(This post was last modified: October 27, 2011 at 9:24 am by lucent.)
(October 27, 2011 at 8:48 am)Rhythm Wrote: Is it really that difficult for you to understand that the heaven you're describing does not sound like a paradise to the the people who are responding to you? Just how wise would god be if he didn't already know that? Just how powerful could he be if the only heaven he could create was your hellish version of which many posters here (myself included) want no part? Every time you post you make god sound less like god and more like the bigoted and petty voice in your own head. If I don't get to fuck in heaven, for example, perhaps god shouldn't have hard wired me to enjoy fucking. Maybe he should have never created a woman for Adam spiralling this whole thing out to begin with.
What He creates is a perfect world with no evil and unlimited creative possibilities, which go on forever without getting old. Sounds pretty good to me. I think for any trivial earthly pleasure, there will be many Heavenly substitutes which far exceed it in every discernable way. I am not concerned about what I might lose but everything which is to gain. Your problem is that your imagination hits sex and turns itself off.
(October 27, 2011 at 8:48 am)Rhythm Wrote: He could have made Adam a Steve, but he didn't. He could have made us drones to begin with, but he didn't. Maybe that's because your god doesn't like drones. Now why would he surround himself with them for all eternity? He already had angels to handle this, and he was dissatisfied, remember? That you're speaking directly out of your ass with no evidence for god, heaven, or any of the rest is bad enough. To just push through everything and turn god into empty version of your own prejudices and remorse about whatever happened in your life is ridiculous. You want to be a drone, I'm sure theres a room in heaven for that. Meanwhile, one would hope that god has a contigency plan for those that do not wish to do so.
When you become a Christian, not only do you become a new creation, and receive a new spirit, but God adopts you as His own child. That's the nature of Gods relationship to His church; that of a Father to His children. We're not drones, we're His kids. The Kingdom of Heaven is a family, and its primary tenants are love and unity. God is worthy of all praise, and His plan is perfect. No one is going to be bored, or feel obligated to do anything..there will be joy in Heaven beyond compare. Being in the creative center of existence with the Creator Himself is something beyond our limited imaginations.
(October 27, 2011 at 8:54 am)thesummerqueen Wrote: The point Rhythm, I think we've established, is none of *US* will be there, to their minds.
Which is fine. The hotter the fire, the smaller the bikini I'm wearing. It'll be all right boys.
It's not an us vs. them thing. There is no reason I deserve to go anymore than you do.
