RE: Made in God’s image. Yuk. Not me thanks.
July 24, 2020 at 1:37 pm
(This post was last modified: July 24, 2020 at 1:45 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
(July 24, 2020 at 8:50 am)Porcupine Wrote:(July 24, 2020 at 7:11 am)The Grand Nudger Wrote: Hinduism is a wide definition.
That's one way of looking at it.
As, indeed, Hinduism is a religion that is all-encompassing and includes basically all beliefs.
But what I, in particular, meant is the following: Hinduism is the oldest religion when we use 'religion' in a narrower sense rather than when we use 'religion' in a wider sense that can include animism. Animism is the oldest religion when we use 'religion' in a wider sense rather than when we use 'religion' in a narrower sense to exclude animism.
You seem to have a way with changing what people have said. No offense given and none, presumably, taken.
You have your reasons for whatever you are doing whether I'm seeing you accurately or not.
There's a wonderful definition for religion, durkheim's
Quote:a unified system of beliefs and practices relative to sacred things, i.e., things set apart and forbidden—beliefs and practices which unite in one single moral community called a Church, all those who adhere to them.
Animism and hinduism both fail this criteria, as described, but parceled up chunks of the animist or hindu demographics would or at least could satisfy it.
It contains no reference to the supernatural or gods, and contains no reference to the truth or falsehood of those beliefs. You can see how a great many things would qualify, by that definition, as religions - and if...after having considered the ways that "hinduism" fails that criteria, we still choose to enter it into the running for oldest extant religions, the competition becomes vast.
Red ochre burials (and burial societies in general) then, have and are a religion, and we continue to bury our dead today. We started that 19k years ago, at least. We're sure it came earlier, but we know it came no later. For reference, and just as a very generous point of interest to the beliefs we now call hinduism, we don't think that they could possibly be any older than 12k, but most likely something like 4k, and just for the oldest included in the set, at that.
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