RE: Christians what would change your mind?
August 8, 2020 at 3:51 pm
(This post was last modified: August 8, 2020 at 3:54 pm by Xaventis.)
(August 8, 2020 at 3:37 pm)Ranjr Wrote: I was discussing with Christians the silence of Paul and other evidence that pre-Gospel Christians didn't know about Jesus of Nazareth. They knew him as a spirit who appeared and revealed himself. Many said that, if there was no Jesus of Nazareth, they would no longer believe in Christianity.
Reasonable, I never argue that jesus never existed, the NT and jesus are to fake to be made up, what we read in 99% of the NT is the accurate story of a 1 century charlatan named jesus who performed simple tricks to fool stupid people (some miracles are to stupid to accept even for Christians.) behaved like a lunatic and possibly was bipolar and/or did have schizophrenia (why did jesus attack the fig tree?). Then Jesus assaults some people and the Romans kill him with the rest of the guilty criminals like thieves (read your bible).
After some time the rest of his inner circle decided to restart the same scam and tell lies that jesus resurrected and showed himself to them, conveniently only in their cult leader house, that only they the cult leaders can be in.
The remaining 1% are simple lies. Jesus behaves nothing like you expect from anyone even on he level of gods prophet. For example moses divided the see, jesus never did that.
Moses > jesus.
(August 8, 2020 at 3:37 pm)Ranjr Wrote: That surprised me. I told them they already disregard the historicity of much of the Bible.
Without the resurrection of jesus their religion makes no sense, throw that one out and its game over. The rest is fluff you can throw away.
(August 8, 2020 at 3:37 pm)Ranjr Wrote: Do what makes you happy.
This is a dangerous hippy mindset that I can not subscribe to.