(August 10, 2020 at 3:40 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote: Earlier, we were told that the baggage was our problem. I'm interested...is it inconceivable to our resident christians that any person could have any problem with their god which doesn't reduce to a personal problem?
It is very conceivable and likely that there is both systemic anti-theism and personal anti-theism for many atheists. The reasons for these are as wide as the sea as there are unlimited potential to what we can think.
However, as observation is completely personal and subjective I would say that all belief reduce to some degree to a personal belief and thus a personal problem. Specifically with relation to a personal God and a personal relationship with said God. You may gain some traction and fidelity by agreeing that IFBs are normally racist and hateful people at a broader sense. I would even pass on the agrumentum ad populum. I might even whole heartily agree with the assessment and share the view. The point was that the sum of your reasons equate to Religion=Bad. The sum of my reasons equate to Religion=good. The only real conversation are what color are the lenses both of us use o come up with such differing opinions.
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"There ought to be a term that would designate those who actually follow the teachings of Jesus, since the word 'Christian' has been largely divorced from those teachings, and so polluted by fundamentalists that it has come to connote their polar opposite: intolerance, vindictive hatred, and bigotry." -- Philip Stater, Huffington Post
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