(September 9, 2020 at 11:20 am)Drich Wrote:(August 26, 2020 at 10:33 am)Eleven Wrote: I wish this question was my own, but I saw it on FB.
The question is still valid, however.
God is the alpha and Omega which means beginning and end of all things. this means nothing is greater. do not confuse this with an omni max God as an omni max is bound to the laws of being a supreme being and thus subject to paradox. alpha and omega God is far more powerful and is not bound by paradox because God's will his desire supersedes his strength. meaning of God wanted to create a rock so big he could not lift it it means he could create such a rock, however if he did not want to create such a object then he couldn't do it. this is what absolute strength and power looks like. If God's will says he is not a liar, so then he can not lie. if his will says he can, then God can.. that's the true nature of an alpha and omega.. basically God does what ever the Eff God wants to do. as he is the first authority and the last rule. no other rules laws or principles control or guide him outside his own will and authority.
(August 27, 2020 at 11:05 am)The Grand Nudger Wrote: If gods power extended to moral value - then he could make lying good and lie. OFC, if gods power extended to moral value, he could make himself bad and lie. The second one seems like a more direct route.
.....but ...
IF omnipotence doesn't include the power to create or overturn necessary truths, then our hypothetical good god could no more make lying good than it could lie.
It's a rare commitment to logic and objectivity within the qualitatively subjective and nihilistic mass of christian belief regarding moral value and possibility. If we approach it consistently, then we can say that a person who believes in those kinds of morals, and that kind of god, can't believe that magic book got it right on that count. Someone scribbled that into the margins. It's a convenient position, especially considering the question at hand. Asserting that god cannot lie, we then expunge any lie we notice god telling as the lie of another.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Jz1TjCphXE
ah... no.
Where have you been? Prison?
