RE: Another gun discussion part deux.
October 6, 2020 at 10:14 am
(This post was last modified: October 6, 2020 at 10:22 am by Drich.)
(October 5, 2020 at 5:22 pm)onlinebiker Wrote:actually the national guard has taken the place of the militia. so your talking out of your ass. the militia got a serious up grade and have become a regular army, which means it is not technically a militia any more. which puts the role of citizen soldier back onto the people. just like in the revolutionary war days anyone who answers the call to defend this country from threats foreign or domestic or even answer the call to stand watch armed for the same purposes is militia. like it or not, these guys are being defined or identified as militia even if they do not fit the legal definition which is all you provided. these men by action are militia.(October 5, 2020 at 5:13 pm)Drich Wrote: militia is not regular army you know that right? a militia are those guns who show up to antifa rallies and 'guard' store fronts. kyle what's his name that shot 3 dudes is considered militia. I honestly believe most of us who do own long guns have several other people we hang out with that could very well be considered a small squad or even platoon of militia men. On the right I do not see that as an issue. however gun ownership on the left seems to be more self serving. there isn't a prevalent gun culture to speak of and when one is assembled (the not F-ing around boys/the all black open carry guys) can't seem to get together without negligently discharging their guns and shooting one another with them. Honestly the 2nd amendment is the only reason we have not plunged into a civil war yet.You are talking out your ass.
The Militia is defunct.
It does not exist as it was designed and intended. Random bastards running about with guns are not The Militia.
The Militia is - all able bodied men between the ages of 18 and 45 years of age. The commissioning of officers, awarding of ranks and training therof is the juristiction of the Governor of each state.
Seeing that no Governor has done that since the 1800's you might as well forget about the militia.
And no - the National Guard is not the militia. It does not fit the Constitutional definition of militia.
note yours is only definition 2 of the total meaning of the word. while this means you are not completely wrong, understand neither am i as my repersentation of the word meets definition 1:
mi•li•tia mə-lĭsh′ə
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- n.
An army composed of ordinary citizens rather than professional soldiers.
- n.
A military force that is not part of a regular army and is subject to call for service in an emergency.
- n.
The whole body of physically fit civilians eligible by law for military service.
(October 5, 2020 at 5:34 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:This is very true like how you glossed over the fact that the supreme court ruled that the well regulated militia was not the sole purpose of the right to bear arms. but rather the independent statement "the people's right to bear arms shall not be infringed" stands alone as it's own declarative statement. having a well regulated militia was the benefit of this right as each member precured his own firearm and trained with it on his dime.(October 5, 2020 at 5:13 pm)Drich Wrote: militia is not regular army you know that right? a militia are those guns who show up to antifa rallies and 'guard' store fronts. kyle what's his name that shot 3 dudes is considered militia. I honestly believe most of us who do own long guns have several other people we hang out with that could very well be considered a small squad or even platoon of militia men. On the right I do not see that as an issue. however gun ownership on the left seems to be more self serving. there isn't a prevalent gun culture to speak of and when one is assembled (the not F-ing around boys/the all black open carry guys) can't seem to get together without negligently discharging their guns and shooting one another with them. Honestly the 2nd amendment is the only reason we have not plunged into a civil war yet.
Like so many people who have trouble with complex sentences, you glossed over the ‘well regulated’.
Boru
https://www.law.cornell.edu/wex/second_amendment