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Another gun discussion part deux.
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RE: Another gun discussion part deux.
(October 7, 2020 at 12:49 pm)Rev. Rye Wrote:
(October 7, 2020 at 12:37 pm)downbeatplumb Wrote: So why did they want a regulated militia?
Because it was supposed to be INSTEAD of a standing army.
So to keep your guns you should really get rid of your army.

Like I said, the Second Amendment was written for a time when America had a fundamentally different idea of how to defend itself than it does now (namely, each individual state had its own militia and it was still a question whether or not it was even possible or worthwhile to try and consolidate these militiae into a federal army, and even then, people were gravitating to "no"), and, while, technically, the definition of the "unorganised militia" is so broad it encompasses most every able-bodied man (and probably woman) to reach the age of 18, even that is a largely obsolete concept given that the few attacks on American soil since the Civil War have been so small-scale that there's been no need to invoke it. While it was likely a valuable right for the Constitution to protect back in 1787, 233 years later, it's become the inflamed appendix on the American body-politic, serving no purpose but to flare up and further sicken the nation.

see the above post and notation to the supreme court decision on how the amendment was intended to be interpreted. we do not have to guess or argue the supreme court tells us the official national position.. anything else is just conjecture.

(October 7, 2020 at 1:00 pm)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote: "Well regulated" meant "well drilled" or "well trained". They were supposed to be able to act like professional soldiers without getting paid for that. The Op-Ed pages of the day had fun with their "drills".

again does not matter as the law according to the supreme court extends past the militia and includes self and home defense.

(October 7, 2020 at 1:34 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote: Buried in all of that horseshit, was the gem that you're convinced gun control dems are buying up all the gunstuff as their cities burn.

there are hunders of articles on this: https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/08...ica-today/ All contribute the shortage to first time gun buyers as being the primary reason for the shortage... who are the first time gun buyers? it is not he card carrying nra heavy right wing republicans. it is the middle of the road and even middle left 'dims.' most articles identify them even if they dont who else is buying guns for the first time?
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Another gun discussion part deux. - by Drich - October 5, 2020 at 4:46 pm
RE: Another gun discussion part deux. - by Drich - October 5, 2020 at 5:13 pm
RE: Another gun discussion part deux. - by onlinebiker - October 5, 2020 at 5:22 pm
RE: Another gun discussion part deux. - by Drich - October 6, 2020 at 10:14 am
RE: Another gun discussion part deux. - by onlinebiker - October 6, 2020 at 10:24 am
RE: Another gun discussion part deux. - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - October 7, 2020 at 12:23 pm
RE: Another gun discussion part deux. - by downbeatplumb - October 7, 2020 at 12:37 pm
RE: Another gun discussion part deux. - by Dingo - October 14, 2020 at 8:59 pm
RE: Another gun discussion part deux. - by Pat Mustard - October 6, 2020 at 1:10 am
RE: Another gun discussion part deux. - by onlinebiker - October 5, 2020 at 4:59 pm
RE: Another gun discussion part deux. - by Drich - October 5, 2020 at 5:26 pm
RE: Another gun discussion part deux. - by popeyespappy - October 5, 2020 at 10:03 pm
RE: Another gun discussion part deux. - by Drich - October 6, 2020 at 12:04 pm
RE: Another gun discussion part deux. - by Brian37 - October 6, 2020 at 12:11 pm
RE: Another gun discussion part deux. - by popeyespappy - October 6, 2020 at 12:34 pm
RE: Another gun discussion part deux. - by onlinebiker - October 6, 2020 at 1:03 pm
RE: Another gun discussion part deux. - by popeyespappy - October 6, 2020 at 1:11 pm
RE: Another gun discussion part deux. - by no one - October 5, 2020 at 5:00 pm
RE: Another gun discussion part deux. - by no one - October 5, 2020 at 5:31 pm
RE: Another gun discussion part deux. - by Brian37 - October 5, 2020 at 6:21 pm
RE: Another gun discussion part deux. - by onlinebiker - October 5, 2020 at 6:30 pm
RE: Another gun discussion part deux. - by Rhizomorph13 - October 5, 2020 at 6:41 pm
RE: Another gun discussion part deux. - by Drich - October 6, 2020 at 10:56 am
RE: Another gun discussion part deux. - by Brian37 - October 6, 2020 at 11:08 am
RE: Another gun discussion part deux. - by Drich - October 7, 2020 at 1:27 pm
RE: Another gun discussion part deux. - by Rev. Rye - October 7, 2020 at 2:08 pm
RE: Another gun discussion part deux. - by Drich - October 7, 2020 at 2:33 pm
RE: Another gun discussion part deux. - by brewer - October 5, 2020 at 7:14 pm
RE: Another gun discussion part deux. - by Drich - October 6, 2020 at 11:19 am
RE: Another gun discussion part deux. - by brewer - October 6, 2020 at 11:34 am
RE: Another gun discussion part deux. - by Drich - October 7, 2020 at 1:55 pm
RE: Another gun discussion part deux. - by popeyespappy - October 7, 2020 at 4:56 pm
RE: Another gun discussion part deux. - by Drich - October 8, 2020 at 12:04 pm
RE: Another gun discussion part deux. - by popeyespappy - October 8, 2020 at 1:10 pm
RE: Another gun discussion part deux. - by The Grand Nudger - October 6, 2020 at 12:39 am
RE: Another gun discussion part deux. - by Drich - October 7, 2020 at 12:09 pm
RE: Another gun discussion part deux. - by Gawdzilla Sama - October 6, 2020 at 10:30 am
RE: Another gun discussion part deux. - by Brian37 - October 6, 2020 at 11:26 am
RE: Another gun discussion part deux. - by Drich - October 7, 2020 at 1:40 pm
RE: Another gun discussion part deux. - by onlinebiker - October 6, 2020 at 12:27 pm
RE: Another gun discussion part deux. - by Rev. Rye - October 6, 2020 at 2:05 pm
RE: Another gun discussion part deux. - by Pat Mustard - October 8, 2020 at 2:24 am
RE: Another gun discussion part deux. - by The Grand Nudger - October 7, 2020 at 12:17 pm
RE: Another gun discussion part deux. - by Rev. Rye - October 7, 2020 at 12:49 pm
RE: Another gun discussion part deux. - by Drich - October 7, 2020 at 2:22 pm
RE: Another gun discussion part deux. - by Gawdzilla Sama - October 7, 2020 at 1:00 pm
RE: Another gun discussion part deux. - by onlinebiker - October 7, 2020 at 1:14 pm
RE: Another gun discussion part deux. - by Rev. Rye - October 7, 2020 at 2:52 pm
RE: Another gun discussion part deux. - by onlinebiker - October 7, 2020 at 4:48 pm
RE: Another gun discussion part deux. - by Rev. Rye - October 7, 2020 at 5:15 pm
RE: Another gun discussion part deux. - by onlinebiker - October 7, 2020 at 6:35 pm
RE: Another gun discussion part deux. - by onlinebiker - October 8, 2020 at 9:11 am
RE: Another gun discussion part deux. - by Rev. Rye - October 7, 2020 at 7:05 pm
RE: Another gun discussion part deux. - by Gawdzilla Sama - October 7, 2020 at 7:15 pm
RE: Another gun discussion part deux. - by Rev. Rye - October 7, 2020 at 7:29 pm
RE: Another gun discussion part deux. - by Gawdzilla Sama - October 8, 2020 at 6:57 am
RE: Another gun discussion part deux. - by Rev. Rye - October 8, 2020 at 12:26 pm
RE: Another gun discussion part deux. - by onlinebiker - October 8, 2020 at 12:37 pm

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