(October 31, 2011 at 12:26 pm)Epimethean Wrote: Serial rapists, serial murderers, Sae, so yes, I do suggest that such people will automatically be a threat to society and are not rehabilitable. It really is that simple: They offer nothing and take everything.
Eg.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Wayne_Gacy
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gary_Ridgway
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albert_Fish
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/H._H._Holmes
It isn't much to give considering what they took, but each of these men gave at least something back to society... whether it was a good husband or a drugstore or a light politician.
From wiki 'He admitted in his autobiography to beating his young wife, and indulging in carnal pleasures out of lust, jealousy and possessiveness, not genuine love. He had eaten meat, smoked a cigarette, and almost visited a prostitute. It was only after much personal turmoil and repeated failures that Gandhi developed his philosophy.'
Certainly we could convict thousands of leaders of mass murder and other crimes (many of association and accomplice)... for wars and for committing crimes that for lesser men and women would have seen them executed or incarcerated.
Everyone can give to a society. Crimes and capacity to give to others are neither related nor correlated.
Please give me a home where cloud buffalo roam
Where the dear and the strangers can play
Where sometimes is heard a discouraging word
But the skies are not stormy all day