RE: Separation of Science and State
November 16, 2020 at 3:16 am
(This post was last modified: November 16, 2020 at 3:21 am by Sal.)
(November 15, 2020 at 8:33 pm)Apollo Wrote:(November 15, 2020 at 12:20 pm)Anomalocaris Wrote: Religion is hardly a primitive form of science. It is a form of governance that is without knowledge but nonetheless pretend to be informed.
Religion is many things for sure—framework to define and enforce moral code (governance) etc—but first and foremost it is a discipline that makes claims—claims rooted in reality as it sees it. This is similar to making deductive inferences and forming hypothesis and theories.
Existence of god, afterlife, causal relationships between deeds and calamities etc (sins) are all hypothesis and theories that develop the basis on which religion further concocts social moral code and laws etc.
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I disagree.
Those are not hypotheses, although I wouldn't be surprised that a lot of atheists think that. Those are systems of control, keeping people captured by faith 'thinking', disguised as hypotheses about the Nature of Reality. They have all the appearances of saying something about Nature, but under the bed covers, it's about control. That's my view, informed by my apostacy.
This isn't something I just pull out of my ass; what is and how is the 'afterlife' hypothesis being tested, in a religious context? You can ask the same thing about any test about how religions form and say shit - 'afterlife', 'god', 'deeds and calamities' ... but I do agree they use these appearances for 'social moral code', 'laws' and so on ... the latter part is the control part, in that aspect I agree with @Anomalocaris.
Am I incorrect in this? If so, how?
I would love to see the perspective of someone who was never a believer, no matter the religion. I have my insight, the non-apostates have theirs.
(November 16, 2020 at 2:27 am)John 6IX Breezy Wrote: No I'm still waiting for your explanation
Dude, your mind is poisoned, how many times does TGN have to repeat himself in his replies before you get it?
Are you trolling?
"The first principle is that you must not fool yourself — and you are the easiest person to fool." - Richard P. Feynman