RE: Separation of Science and State
November 16, 2020 at 6:15 am
(This post was last modified: November 16, 2020 at 6:29 am by The Grand Nudger.)
Well, there we have it. If we get rid of all the christians then christianity isn't a religion and those churches weren't churches.
You're being ridiculous..for no reason. There's nothing to argue here. There's no gotcha. Nothing hidden around the corner that will or is even meant to be an argument against your religion or against your god. Nothing in this definition which contradicts your religion or reality.
A belief in ghosts is not a religion, a belief in ghosts that produces normative content in all who hold it, is, and the term durkheim uses for whatever number of people do hold that belief, is a church.
We separate church and state on account of conflicts of normative content. Turns out that when people hold a normative belief they vote in it's interests, they seek to organize society in a particular way, because they think that this is the right way to organize society. That's not at all surprising, right? We all do that.
To hammer the point further home - if someone refused to obey our laws because his religion told him he didn't have to, we wouldn't say "no, you do, because there's only one of you in your church, only one of you that follows your religion" - we would say - "sorry buddy, separation. We don't tell you what you can believe, and your religion doesn't tell us what is and isn't the law or who does and does not have to obey it."
You're being ridiculous..for no reason. There's nothing to argue here. There's no gotcha. Nothing hidden around the corner that will or is even meant to be an argument against your religion or against your god. Nothing in this definition which contradicts your religion or reality.
A belief in ghosts is not a religion, a belief in ghosts that produces normative content in all who hold it, is, and the term durkheim uses for whatever number of people do hold that belief, is a church.
We separate church and state on account of conflicts of normative content. Turns out that when people hold a normative belief they vote in it's interests, they seek to organize society in a particular way, because they think that this is the right way to organize society. That's not at all surprising, right? We all do that.
To hammer the point further home - if someone refused to obey our laws because his religion told him he didn't have to, we wouldn't say "no, you do, because there's only one of you in your church, only one of you that follows your religion" - we would say - "sorry buddy, separation. We don't tell you what you can believe, and your religion doesn't tell us what is and isn't the law or who does and does not have to obey it."
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