(November 22, 2020 at 5:24 pm)Klorophyll Wrote:(November 22, 2020 at 4:11 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote: Sure, np. First, let's ask if anyone actually established the equality of the concepts.
An atheist believes that.....
1-they have a mind.
2-there is an external world.
3-there are other minds.
A theist believes.....
1-they have a mind.
2-there is an external world.
3-there are other minds.
4-at least one of those minds is a god.
Nope. Looks like there's an additional commitment, right off the bat. That 4th commitment is a doozy - no matter how you intend to rationalize it.
I am still reading Plantinga's book. And I don't think this is how he presents his argument. For a start, it's the same criteria that leads the atheist to believe in2 and 3 that should be investigated, not the claim 4 taken by itself.
1-3 are active areas of research - four remains the difference between atheists and believers. No matter how plantiga might frame an argument, that much is true by definition.
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