RE: What God's justification for eternal torment?
November 24, 2020 at 5:36 pm
(This post was last modified: November 24, 2020 at 5:37 pm by R00tKiT.)
(August 13, 2020 at 10:30 pm)SuicideCommando01 Wrote: OK listen, I get that God has rules and all
You "get" it because of the brain God gave you. It's conceivable that you will get another kind of brain in the afterlife where eternal torment actually makes sense and seems fair for everyone.
(August 13, 2020 at 10:30 pm)SuicideCommando01 Wrote: why does God need to punish us with LITERAL FIRE? Why BURN BILLIONS of people as punishment for "not accepting my son" ?
Although I am a muslim and thus don't endorse this screwed "accepting the son" doctrine -christianity, I think all people, including myself, deserve punishment. I conceive of it as some kind of endowments/gratefulness ratio (>>1). You and I are literally endowed with many, many things and privileges we are not grateful for, or even aware of. Being alive is an extremely rare and unique event when you read the arguments for fine-tuning.
I am not going to build a case for Islam here but if Islam is the right religion, then God didn't really demand that much from his creatures, but his endowments do show an infinite goodness. Endorsing strict monotheism and regularly following simple rituals is all there is to it, roughly speaking.
(August 13, 2020 at 10:30 pm)SuicideCommando01 Wrote: And don't say "No they actually do die a second time in the lake of fire" because that "holy" book of yours is filled with contradictions.
Death itself is perceived as a creature in Islamic beliefs. In one hadith, the prophet PBUH portrays death as a sheep that gets slaughtered in the Day of Judgment. Meaning there cannot be any second death ever.
It's been a year since I registered in this forum, and I still beg anyone here to come up with an actual contradiction in the Qur'an, or anything that can instill doubt in me about my beliefs. I got nothing so far.
I used to discuss Islam with arab non religious people for some seven years now and never got any strong case against the Islamic core text.
(August 13, 2020 at 10:30 pm)SuicideCommando01 Wrote: God cannot deal with sinners in a civilized, and humane matter?
Why are you asking of a being that is not human by definition to act like if he were ? You are thinking of an anthromorphized God. And this distorted thinking is the origin of all your misunderstandings.