Enough of this crap, I want to hear directly from god

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I see that you decided to retract one of your asserted facts - no matter.  

You have yet to get past the point of children's tendencies being more than a brute fact of what children do.  It's no surprise to me that children describe the world as they see it in human terms.  Seems like it might go with the territory of being human.  You think it means more.

How, a giant mystery.  I think you should reread the thread - because the comment above goes past a disagreement regarding facts and deeply into the territory of a bold faced lie.  I did...of course...offer explanations.  None of them had any allah, however, so you didn't like them. 

What explanations did you offer exactly ? I only recall you mentioning some unspecified "behavioral trick" and cultural influence. These factors certainly don't describe this tendency for belief pattern very well, because we observe the latter accross different cultures. So, until you give more referenced details about the trick you're talking about, we'll stick with appearances.

If you demanded a chocolate cake and I gave you a couple vanilla cakes...it wouldn't be accurate to say that you'd been given no cake.  Just didn't get the one you wanted.  

So let's start...again, at the very bottom.  Children ascribe purpose to natural phenomena.  They could do this because they're hilarious little fantasy machines and see what doesn't exist, or they might do this because a natural teleology is conceivable.  I suspect that it's a bit of both.

You?

Yes of course, I agree. Children are obviously into fantasy, and there might be some instrinsic feature within them that explains the emergence of teleological thinking naturally. But again, describing these patterns in children scientifically doesn't answer our problem. Any scientific explanation of a given pattern still warrants the question of why the pattern is there in the first place. The same thing can be said about evolution, it doesn't explain away a fine-tuner who intended for natural selection all along to be the driving force behind the variety of life.

Some apologists like WLC consider the discovery of evolutionary processes, namely mutation and natural selection, as something in favor of theism. Because these processes require a whole package of chemical and environmental properties that just can't be ascribed to coincidence. So, even if these patterns in children turn out to have some evolutionary ground, we still have a lot of work to do.

Who cares whether you have a soul or whether you have something to look forward to?  To hear you lot tell it, most of us who (allegedly) do have souls don't have anything to look forward to, anyway.  

You insisted that without a god you were no different than a battery.  That much is laughably and demonstrably false.

How is it false ? I suppose you agree that a soul isn't conceivable without God. There is an equivalence, a logical one, between the existence of a just God and the existence of a soul. Now if you change the status of the existence of God from 1 to 0, the status of the equivalent assertion changes too.
With that in mind, absent deities and souls, we will die exactly like batteries do. We will simply run out of vital energy and vanish. The possibility of an afterlife and resurrection of people faces very serious difficulties, like the complete loss of identity, of what makes me, me, when our brains simply disappear.

It's precisely equivalent to the conjecture that without god, there would be no difference between this or that.  Gods aren;t a difference making property - but asserting that..if a god left the room..you and a battery (or you and I) would be identical is exactly where this assertion goes.  If you don't believe that, then you don't believe your own assertion.

-Which is great...because it's ridiculous on it's face. 

As explained above, the existence of God is a difference making property with regards to souls and afterlife. Absent these two, we and batteries are the sum total of our constituent atoms, that's all there is to it.

Could?  Could but don't?  You leave me wondering what your life is supposed to mean with a god.  

You tell me that absent a god your life is without purpose, I rattle of some things that people find purpose in, things you mentioned...and you nope out.  Perhaps your life truly is purposeless...but you must understand that this is a you problem? 

Where exactly did I "nope out" ? I did say that finding purpose in these things is great, I do them too when I can. The relevant thing here is that, absent a god, we only have makeshift purposes. We can sometimes prevent the occurence of these bad things and enforce law, but there will always be some people, such as victims of these bad things, cannot find purpose without God.
As I said before, what would motivate some bereaved mother of a dozen of deceased children to carry on in life, other than the thought of them being in eternal bliss, until she "joins" them ?

Anywho, there are plenty f things that you could do for suffering people.  I suspect you have as much interest in that as you have in any other non-god thing.  This is one of the things about your god concept that irks me to no end.  

You excuse yourself for being worthless and uninterested in becoming worthy on account of it.

Go ahead. Keep polishing your strawman. Religious people are uninterested in helping suffering people.......