RE: What will win the god wars? Faith, Fantasy, Facts, or God?
December 10, 2020 at 1:27 pm
(This post was last modified: December 10, 2020 at 1:32 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
I'll give you a real world example from my own life. If you searched catholic church in (insert my city here), you'll be directed to the diocese website. The diocese website, on it's welcome page, offers an energy and carbon audit for households. That's their in. They're direct competitors with me in an ideological marketplace..but, in practice, we work together on this issue with some regularity. I've paid my bills with catholic money.
I farm St Peter's fish, after all..in the middle of a veritable fish (and food) desert. If that's not one of gods miracles.......of mana falling from the sky..well, you tell me.
Now, there are explanations for this. I live in a rural area and so the message about what should be which resonates here isn't the same message that resonates in NYC (although that;'s changing). The catholic religion..here, officiialy, believes that the world should be more in tune with natural cycles and limitations. That;s the litmus test for prospective new believers. That;s the angle.
That's a moral claim. Now, I have questions;
Are they wrong that the would should be a certain way. In this case, energy and carbon conscious.
Are they wrong about some jesus?
+and, for bonus points, I'm disappointed that you invoked moral realism and then immediately insisted that you didn't have the right answer to anything when challanged - and went even further to reduce the answers to moral questions to mere subjective opinion. Either you believe in right and wrong answers to moral questions...or you don't - pick a lane. I have no problem telling people that my moral standards are universal and true, and you must believe as much to claim that others are not and are false.
I farm St Peter's fish, after all..in the middle of a veritable fish (and food) desert. If that's not one of gods miracles.......of mana falling from the sky..well, you tell me.
Now, there are explanations for this. I live in a rural area and so the message about what should be which resonates here isn't the same message that resonates in NYC (although that;'s changing). The catholic religion..here, officiialy, believes that the world should be more in tune with natural cycles and limitations. That;s the litmus test for prospective new believers. That;s the angle.
That's a moral claim. Now, I have questions;
Are they wrong that the would should be a certain way. In this case, energy and carbon conscious.
Are they wrong about some jesus?
+and, for bonus points, I'm disappointed that you invoked moral realism and then immediately insisted that you didn't have the right answer to anything when challanged - and went even further to reduce the answers to moral questions to mere subjective opinion. Either you believe in right and wrong answers to moral questions...or you don't - pick a lane. I have no problem telling people that my moral standards are universal and true, and you must believe as much to claim that others are not and are false.
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