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Good read on consciousness
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RE: Good read on consciousness
Illusionism may be wrong...but it's not incoherent. In attention schema theory, it's hypothesized that the thing we call consciousness might come about in a machine or organism in the same manner and for the same reasons that a body control schema would.

It's value, in the case of organisms it's selective advantage, is not in the accuracy of the report-as-fact, but in the ability of the report to produce beneficial outcomes. IE, not die and the like. It doesn't have to be a true report of an actual state of a discreet organ or region, in order to be truly useful.

The absence of any little man, or any insistence that consciousness must be so and so, is a strnegth of the view, not a weakness...provided we're trying to explain something by what observations and data we have, first. It can't be said enough. We can't find the little man. We can't find the Other Stuff. We can't even find a unified controlling structure. Theres no cpu. The most fundamental things about this report are simply false - even if something meaningful about the report, which would make illusionism false, were true.

None of it seems to work like it feels, whatever it is, and the way it feels to be is what phenomenology is supposed to be about, what phenomenological consciousness (as opposed to access consciousness) is defined as.
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Good read on consciousness - by Apollo - January 5, 2021 at 2:36 pm
RE: Good read on consciousness - by onlinebiker - January 5, 2021 at 2:45 pm
RE: Good read on consciousness - by The Grand Nudger - January 5, 2021 at 3:52 pm
RE: Good read on consciousness - by HappySkeptic - January 7, 2021 at 8:58 pm
RE: Good read on consciousness - by Grandizer - January 7, 2021 at 10:28 pm
RE: Good read on consciousness - by The Grand Nudger - January 7, 2021 at 10:55 pm
RE: Good read on consciousness - by Duty - January 8, 2021 at 12:28 am
RE: Good read on consciousness - by Jehanne - January 8, 2021 at 12:25 pm
RE: Good read on consciousness - by Grandizer - January 8, 2021 at 10:22 pm
RE: Good read on consciousness - by Jehanne - January 10, 2021 at 10:22 am
RE: Good read on consciousness - by The Grand Nudger - January 8, 2021 at 12:32 pm
RE: Good read on consciousness - by Jehanne - January 8, 2021 at 12:51 pm
RE: Good read on consciousness - by The Grand Nudger - January 8, 2021 at 2:02 pm
RE: Good read on consciousness - by HappySkeptic - January 8, 2021 at 2:28 pm
RE: Good read on consciousness - by The Grand Nudger - January 8, 2021 at 2:41 pm
RE: Good read on consciousness - by HappySkeptic - January 8, 2021 at 2:57 pm
RE: Good read on consciousness - by The Grand Nudger - January 8, 2021 at 3:02 pm
RE: Good read on consciousness - by HappySkeptic - January 8, 2021 at 3:12 pm
RE: Good read on consciousness - by The Grand Nudger - January 8, 2021 at 3:15 pm
RE: Good read on consciousness - by John 6IX Breezy - January 8, 2021 at 4:27 pm
RE: Good read on consciousness - by The Grand Nudger - January 8, 2021 at 4:31 pm
RE: Good read on consciousness - by The Grand Nudger - January 9, 2021 at 12:36 am
RE: Good read on consciousness - by Grandizer - January 9, 2021 at 4:33 am
RE: Good read on consciousness - by The Grand Nudger - January 9, 2021 at 8:54 am
RE: Good read on consciousness - by HappySkeptic - January 9, 2021 at 2:33 pm
RE: Good read on consciousness - by Grandizer - January 9, 2021 at 11:17 pm
RE: Good read on consciousness - by The Grand Nudger - January 9, 2021 at 6:48 pm
RE: Good read on consciousness - by The Grand Nudger - January 10, 2021 at 12:49 am
RE: Good read on consciousness - by Grandizer - January 10, 2021 at 7:36 am
RE: Good read on consciousness - by The Grand Nudger - January 10, 2021 at 7:04 pm
RE: Good read on consciousness - by Grandizer - January 11, 2021 at 12:47 am
RE: Good read on consciousness - by The Grand Nudger - January 11, 2021 at 2:27 am
RE: Good read on consciousness - by Grandizer - January 11, 2021 at 4:17 am
RE: Good read on consciousness - by HappySkeptic - January 11, 2021 at 11:27 am
RE: Good read on consciousness - by John 6IX Breezy - January 11, 2021 at 5:51 pm
RE: Good read on consciousness - by The Grand Nudger - January 11, 2021 at 12:00 pm
RE: Good read on consciousness - by Grandizer - January 11, 2021 at 12:25 pm
RE: Good read on consciousness - by The Grand Nudger - January 11, 2021 at 12:33 pm
RE: Good read on consciousness - by Grandizer - January 11, 2021 at 12:47 pm
RE: Good read on consciousness - by The Grand Nudger - January 11, 2021 at 12:55 pm
RE: Good read on consciousness - by Grandizer - January 11, 2021 at 8:39 pm
RE: Good read on consciousness - by The Grand Nudger - January 12, 2021 at 4:04 am

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