RE: The Trinity
January 22, 2021 at 4:52 pm
(This post was last modified: January 22, 2021 at 4:56 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
I think that it's unclear and arguable the extent to which such effort is considered logical, but ultimately I was only wondering whether this was an accurate description of how you conceived of your own beliefs. I'm going to proceed on the assumption that this was a yes. That christian truth and shirt truth are, to you, the same kinds of truth.
For many people, that's not the case - and that might explain why we get things like a trinity. While we may negotiate over the issue of the color of our shirts, we negotiate from those things we call religious truths. Religious facts can't be contradicted by any shirt facts, even if that shirt fact would or could contradict another shirt fact or force us to reject or abandon a shirt belief. This was explicitly the case with trinitarian doctrine as a paradoxical mystery.
They understood that other facts (or, if we prefer, asserted facts) like shirt facts might compellingly lead to a rejection of the belief, and it very much has. Nevertheless, they believed those god facts to be true and those shirt facts to be incapable of assailing them. Thus, we have a paradox and an article of the faith declared to be true if indecipherable to human reason.
Consider the belief that human life is precious. Is that a religious fact or a shirt fact?
For many people, that's not the case - and that might explain why we get things like a trinity. While we may negotiate over the issue of the color of our shirts, we negotiate from those things we call religious truths. Religious facts can't be contradicted by any shirt facts, even if that shirt fact would or could contradict another shirt fact or force us to reject or abandon a shirt belief. This was explicitly the case with trinitarian doctrine as a paradoxical mystery.
They understood that other facts (or, if we prefer, asserted facts) like shirt facts might compellingly lead to a rejection of the belief, and it very much has. Nevertheless, they believed those god facts to be true and those shirt facts to be incapable of assailing them. Thus, we have a paradox and an article of the faith declared to be true if indecipherable to human reason.
Consider the belief that human life is precious. Is that a religious fact or a shirt fact?
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