(February 4, 2021 at 1:32 am)Irreligious Atheist Wrote:(February 4, 2021 at 1:16 am)Belacqua Wrote: Leaving aside whether the Proud Boys deserve this...
Are there any groups, or loosely-assembled associations, which ought to have their merchandise banned?
Active neo-Nazis? ISIS? NAMBLA? The Crips and Bloods, or their current equivalent? The Justin Bieber Fan Club?
I agree with you that there are civil rights issues. I just don't know if there's a line that we have to draw.
Well, maybe if you are sending money to ISIS members, I could see an issue with that, but the rest are fine. Neo-Nazis, KKK, Nambla, the Crips and the Bloods. All fine. You can buy all of those in the US, right? I kind of identify more with America because of their first amendment, and the singers, actors and athletes I grew up with and like are from there. I never cared for hockey or Tim Hortons.
In my dictionary -which is the normal human dictionary- I categorize groups into two:
1-Groups that don't cause damage
2-Groups that cause damage
Full Stop.
ISIS cause damage, so they terrorists.
Proud Boys cause damage. So they are terrorists.
Another Full Stop.
If Proud Boys had more firepower; they would've caused a hell lot of damage.
ISIS has more firepower because it is active in actual warzones. So if Proud Boys were in a warzone, I'm sure they would've blew things up, murdered the whole White House too.
So, the discussion is over before it starts: white supremacists are so dangerous.