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[Serious] Far-Right Extremism Is a Global Problem
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RE: Far-Right Extremism Is a Global Problem
(February 6, 2021 at 1:03 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote:
(February 6, 2021 at 12:13 pm)Irreligious Atheist Wrote: The Oxford Dictionary calls terrorism “the unlawful use of violence and intimidation, especially against civilians, in the pursuit of political aims.”
Which is exactly what the proud boys do, and what makes them different from blm and antifa.  Yes.  

Quote:Hmm.. so trying to burn down buildings full of people in the pursuit of political aims. Sounds like textbook terrorism to me. Is the Oxford dictionary wrong on this one? Why doesn't the US consider the Proud Boys to be a terrorist group if it's so beyond obvious? Why doesn't any other country on the planet other than mine consider them to be a terrorist group if they are clearly all terrorists? Iran considers atheists to be terrorists, but that doesn't make it so. It doesn't matter what political aims you have behind a terrorist action. As long as they are political aims. If an animal rights activist who thinks they're trying to improve the world for the better commits an act of violence in the pursuit of political aims, that's terrorism.

I don't think BLM, Antifa, Proud Boys, atheists, or animal rights activists should all be smeared as terrorists. If certain members of those groups happen to commit acts of violence in the pursuit of political aims, then it's fair game to call those specific people that.
Correct, there are many ways that a building might end up getting burnt, not all of them are terrorist ways™, therefore it makes little sense to classify any organization or person involved in a building catching fire or being set on fire as a terrorist.  Every arsonist is not a terrorist, even though many terrorists are arsonists, simply put.  The proud boys fit the categorization neatly, while the others do not.  Our boy Henry, for example, decided to set fire to a churches blm banner in the pursuit of a white ethnostate.  The frustrated residents of wherever setting fire to their local target is a poor comparison.

Our attempts to defend and apologize for and excuse domestic terrorists are part of our problem with the rise of right wing terror in this country, and, ofc, our friends in the middle east should be very familiar with having made the same mistakes, themselves.  As a point of fact, the fbi doesn;t designate anything as a domestic terror group, we only issue reports on terror threats.  Guess who;s all over those reports?  As a point of anecdotal data, the US of today reminds me very much of some of the countries I was a peacekeeper in two decades ago.   There's no good case for an american present or future in which these sorts of similarities can be entertained.  Since we've been talking about expected reactions in thread, the expected outcome of our country or our populace buying into right wing extremism to an even greater extent than we already have is manifestly apparent in the failed states and state sponsors of terror we so recently sought to assist.

There will be and can be no negotiation with terrorists over their designation as terrorist organizations.  They aren't holding any blm or antifa or animal rights chips to play, such that they can dictate to us through whatever helpful mouthpiece they find...that we can't have those things, unless we let them do what they want as well.  That's not how any of that works.  OFC, being the supposed master race and all...I guess we can fight it out, see how Yall Qaeda fares against the brutal anti-terrorist machine of western states?
This ^^^

Quote:The Oxford Dictionary calls terrorism “the unlawful use of violence and intimidation, especially against civilians, in the pursuit of political aims.”
By default, the proud boys are by the nature of their white nationalist/white supremacist idealogy all the above. BLM is not nor is Antifa even if a few morons have committed arson as shown above .
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Far-Right Extremism Is a Global Problem - by WinterHold - January 16, 2021 at 12:31 pm
RE: Far-Right Extremism Is a Global Problem - by Deesse23 - January 16, 2021 at 12:52 pm
RE: Far-Right Extremism Is a Global Problem - by brewer - January 16, 2021 at 1:09 pm
RE: Far-Right Extremism Is a Global Problem - by WinterHold - January 16, 2021 at 1:47 pm
RE: Far-Right Extremism Is a Global Problem - by WinterHold - January 16, 2021 at 5:35 pm
RE: Far-Right Extremism Is a Global Problem - by Brian37 - January 16, 2021 at 7:56 pm
RE: Far-Right Extremism Is a Global Problem - by Deesse23 - January 17, 2021 at 3:44 am
RE: Far-Right Extremism Is a Global Problem - by Deesse23 - January 17, 2021 at 7:05 am
RE: Far-Right Extremism Is a Global Problem - by Belacqua - January 17, 2021 at 6:12 am
RE: Far-Right Extremism Is a Global Problem - by Deesse23 - January 22, 2021 at 5:52 am
RE: Far-Right Extremism Is a Global Problem - by no one - January 22, 2021 at 8:34 am
RE: Far-Right Extremism Is a Global Problem - by Belacqua - February 4, 2021 at 1:16 am
RE: Far-Right Extremism Is a Global Problem - by WinterHold - February 4, 2021 at 8:25 pm
RE: Far-Right Extremism Is a Global Problem - by WinterHold - February 4, 2021 at 10:17 pm
RE: Far-Right Extremism Is a Global Problem - by WinterHold - February 4, 2021 at 11:15 pm
RE: Far-Right Extremism Is a Global Problem - by WinterHold - February 5, 2021 at 10:15 pm
RE: Far-Right Extremism Is a Global Problem - by Fake Messiah - February 5, 2021 at 10:57 pm
RE: Far-Right Extremism Is a Global Problem - by WinterHold - February 6, 2021 at 2:58 am
RE: Far-Right Extremism Is a Global Problem - by Brian37 - February 4, 2021 at 8:26 am
RE: Far-Right Extremism Is a Global Problem - by Fake Messiah - February 5, 2021 at 12:58 pm
RE: Far-Right Extremism Is a Global Problem - by Angrboda - February 5, 2021 at 12:48 pm
RE: Far-Right Extremism Is a Global Problem - by WinterHold - February 6, 2021 at 12:16 am
RE: Far-Right Extremism Is a Global Problem - by Fake Messiah - February 6, 2021 at 12:57 pm
RE: Far-Right Extremism Is a Global Problem - by WinterHold - February 7, 2021 at 12:09 am
RE: Far-Right Extremism Is a Global Problem - by The Architect Of Fate - February 6, 2021 at 5:40 pm
RE: Far-Right Extremism Is a Global Problem - by Fake Messiah - February 6, 2021 at 11:32 pm
RE: Far-Right Extremism Is a Global Problem - by WinterHold - February 7, 2021 at 4:39 pm
RE: Far-Right Extremism Is a Global Problem - by Deesse23 - February 10, 2021 at 7:44 am
RE: Far-Right Extremism Is a Global Problem - by HappySkeptic - February 11, 2021 at 7:27 pm
RE: Far-Right Extremism Is a Global Problem - by HappySkeptic - February 11, 2021 at 8:31 pm
RE: Far-Right Extremism Is a Global Problem - by Silver - February 13, 2021 at 10:00 am
RE: Far-Right Extremism Is a Global Problem - by HappySkeptic - February 16, 2021 at 3:14 pm
RE: Far-Right Extremism Is a Global Problem - by HappySkeptic - February 17, 2021 at 11:50 am
RE: Far-Right Extremism Is a Global Problem - by HappySkeptic - February 17, 2021 at 5:02 pm
RE: Far-Right Extremism Is a Global Problem - by HappySkeptic - February 17, 2021 at 6:22 pm

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