[Serious] Far-Right Extremism Is a Global Problem

[Irreligious Atheist]

If you insist on going with bad faith I can't imagine how my supplying you with any fact of any matter might help.

Can you explain why it's perfectly legal to be a white supremacist and say white supremacist shit, in your country, which has no free speech?  This should be simple.

What's the sentence for saying you can't stand the blacks and browns out loud?  That should be simple as well.

Let's really boil this one down, because it's going to be impossible for you to maintain that your expressed fears and worries have been instantiated..in the oppressive state of (checks notes) canadia with respect to right wing extremism and/or white supremacy.  Would you like to have a genuine argument about whatever kind of speech you're referring to as a principle that you wish were written into law somewhere?  That you wish, for example, you had the right to yell fire in the crowded theater?  That you wish that you had the security of protection under law to evade any possibility of consequence for such an act, and that this protection was your right to free speech?  Would you really maintain that even though we should go after terrorists for doing terrorist things...doing that, by right, should be unactionable?

How about the provision of your own state, as to the borders of what kinds of speech the government is empowered to legislate against?  Section 1, limits to any right which are "reasonable and can be justified in a free and democratic society".   Do you genuinely take issue with those sorts of limits?  Do you believe, in  case of complete equivalence - that one person or group can incite a mob to violence against another as a matter of rights - and that this other person or group can likewise incite a mob to violence against them?  Is this your idea of a free and functioning state?

I have no intention, by the way, of arguing against your position, if any of those things are your position.  I merely want to be sure that I'm clear...and that you're clear..on exactly what it is you're intending to communicate to us.

No bad faith coming from me. Others have also pointed out in this very thread that Canada does not have free speech. I'm not the only one pointing that out. I understand that different people will have different definitions of free speech, which is why Sungula argues that we do have free speech in Canada. What he means by free speech though, is speech that is acceptable to him. Acceptable speech is not really free speech now though, is it? I guess it is if he wants to define it that way, but limited to me is the opposite of free. Yes, I am ok with incitement of hatred being allowed. If someone wants to take that incitement and act on it, they are responsible for their own actions and they should be the one punished for their actions.

https://laws-lois.justice.gc.ca/eng/acts...n-319.html

Public incitement of hatred

• 319 (1) Every one who, by communicating statements in any public place, incites hatred against any identifiable group where such incitement is likely to lead to a breach of the peace is guilty of
  
  • (a) an indictable offence and is liable to imprisonment for a term not exceeding two years; or
    
  • (b) an offence punishable on summary conviction.
    
• Wilful promotion of hatred(2) Every one who, by communicating statements, other than in private conversation, wilfully promotes hatred against any identifiable group is guilty of
  • (a) an indictable offence and is liable to imprisonment for a term not exceeding two years; or
    
  • (b) an offence punishable on summary conviction.