RE: A really hard question on Satan and deception.
November 4, 2011 at 7:21 pm
(This post was last modified: November 4, 2011 at 7:22 pm by IATIA.)
(November 4, 2011 at 3:15 pm)Godschild Wrote: Why would God tell them that they would die if they ate from the tree if they were already going to die. Sin brought death into the creation, if they had not disobeyed death would not have entered God's creation and they would have lived forever or until someone sinned.
Then why was a 'tree of life' necessary if not to ensure the longevity of Adam and Eve?
(November 4, 2011 at 3:15 pm)Godschild Wrote: They knew what death was ...
And where did this knowledge come from? I do not recall any death prior to theirs after the fact. The only reference to death was god's threat, but if death does not yet exist, how are Adam and Eve able to comprehend this particular abstract concept?
(November 4, 2011 at 3:15 pm)Godschild Wrote: ... and since they did what good would it have done for God to tell them they would die if they ate from the tree if they were going to die anyway.
As I stated earlier, my contention is that god lied to keep Adam and Eve in his control as slaves to his garden. (need a bible quote for that? got one.)
(November 4, 2011 at 3:15 pm)Godschild Wrote: Why would satan have wanted to tempt them if they were going to die, why would he say that they wouldn't die for eating from the tree. By that statement satan proves that they would live forever. If this does not satisfy you then I'm not sure any amount of statements will.
Satan was telling the truth and his purpose was to help Adam and eve realize that they were but slaves to a tyrannical monster.
You make people miserable and there's nothing they can do about it, just like god.
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-- Homer Simpson
God has no place within these walls, just as facts have no place within organized religion.
-- Superintendent Chalmers
Science is like a blabbermouth who ruins a movie by telling you how it ends. There are some things we don't want to know. Important things.
-- Ned Flanders
Once something's been approved by the government, it's no longer immoral.
-- The Rev Lovejoy
