(February 21, 2021 at 9:00 pm)John 6IX Breezy Wrote:(February 21, 2021 at 8:05 pm)Brian37 Wrote: You really simply need to stop trying to separate consciousness from the brain.
I am not separating the two; I agree nothing persists after you die. But I disagree that dead tissue cannot be repaired and consciousness with it. There is no objective "beyond repair" threshold―only an ever decreasing limitation to what is fixable. Resurrection is essentially abiogenesis 2.0.
Now we are getting into the fantasy world. I forgot the comedy movie staring Bruce Willis, and these two rival woman who made a concoction that could allow them to repeatedly repair damage to their bodies. The plot of the movie basically has them ending up decrepit and ugly and practically useless.
It is absolutely true that you can clone living cells and stem cell research is very promising to the prospect of extending life. But again, even with things like that there still is no forever.
But the word "resurrection" is a word rooted in mythology, not science. Doctors and neurologists I consider not quacks will use words like "revive", "repair" "regenerate" "restore", and if they fail to have an answer as to why someone came out, they simply say, "I don't know".
I can't speak for you, but I don't want to live forever. I want to live as long as I find life enjoyable, and can still care for myself. But when my mom had her last diagnosis, and she chose not to do anything further, it killed me emotionally and I was in a deep depression for a couple of months. But even back then, I understood why she did it. And getting old myself, I have the same attitude.
Theists argue abiogenesis for one reason only, to draw the person they are debating into buying into the bible.
Carbon atoms can make up both living and non living things, but the difference is the structure of the molecules . Molecules of non living carbon have very ridged structures, whereas the carbon atoms in biological life are not ridged but snake in the double helix DNA strands.
There is no super cognition needed to cause either mere non living objects or living biology. Every time I see a theist argue abiogenesis I get a lip twitch and fear they are trying to lead me back into that old book of mythology.
