(February 8, 2021 at 7:13 pm)Simon Moon Wrote: It's ridiculous on several levels, but it isn't even internally coherent.if you read the whole passage you'd note he was also fasting/ had not eaten for 40 days. so his mind/body is near death as i do not think he had a big fat supply to sustain him. so he was very pliable and susceptible to suggestion. which is why the first thing satan offered was to have jesus turn the stones (which look like the type of bread they baked) into bread.
In Matthew 4:1-11, when Jesus was in the wilderness for 40 days, the following occurs: "Again, the devil took Him up on an exceedingly high mountain, and showed Him all the kingdoms of the world and their glory. And he said to Him, “All these things I will give You if You will fall down and worship me".
Quote:So, if Satan knows that Jesus is the god of the universe, he would also know that Jesus already owns "the kingdoms of the world". Jesus would obviously also know that "the kingdoms of the world" are already his. So, what exactly is the ammunition being used in the temptation?brother the bible says over and over and over again world does not belong to God but to satan. Even in the Lord prayer we are told to pray : or father who is in Heaven.. your kingdom come your will be done on earth as it is in heaven... now riddle me this.. if God will was being done here why must we pray for the day for this to happen, and if God's will is not being done yet but we are to pray for a future day God's will be done then how in the world is this God's kingdom? it's NOT! Hell is not Satan's kingdom. Hell is where Satan is to be punished! (the difference between greek/ Roman mythology and Christianity most of you do not know) this is satan's world this is his realm this is where his will is done.
It was God's plan to have christ die on the cross as payment for the souls of the men who chose to worship God over Satan and the lord of this world. To save them from the fate of satan and his followers.
So What satan offers here a way for men to worship Jesus/god without the cross. if you FF to the night jeus was take prisioner to be hung on the cross the next day his sweat turned to blood he was praying so hard to have the father take the burden of the cross from him. Jesus hated and fear the idea of the cross.
yet here jesus rebukes satan for offering a cross-less way to be worshiped by men. even in a physically dimished and mentally fatigued state
