(March 12, 2021 at 10:53 am)arewethereyet Wrote: Here's what I get from this thread...some people think that guilt in the past means G Floyd needed to die. And he was high on drugs; he needed to die.
A law professor I had called this the "he needed killing" method of criminal justice.
Nope. That was not the insinuation at all. The relevance of the drugs are that one of the autopsy reports said that if Floyd was found dead without any surrounding circumstances, the default analysis would be that he died of a drug overdose.
That leads to the question of how much of an impact an overdosing amount of drugs had on his death. There was more than one autopsy and the conclusions differ. One of the autopsy reports says the cause of death was "cardiopulmonary arrest complicating law enforcement subdual, restraint, and neck compression." The other autopsy ruled the cause of death as "asphyxiation from sustained pressure."
We have conflicting results there. Did Floyd die of heart failure, or was it simply the knee on the neck? Floyd also had heart disease, hypertension and sickle cell trait. He was also just getting over Corona, and was likely in a state of excited delirium.[url=https://www.cdc.gov/ncbddd/sicklecell/traits.html][/url]
These are all extremely important details. Others don't want these things mentioned though, because they have the mentality of "I saw the tape. I know what I saw. Seeing is believing." I care about all the evidence though. The eyes deceive and I need to use more than simply my sight to try to figure out exactly what went on here. Remember what the default position used to be on atheist boards like this? "I'd rather see a hundred guilty men go free than one innocent man get locked up." That doesn't quite seem to be the default anymore.
Chauvin definitely f'd up, and maybe you could call it murder or manslaughter or something along those lines. Maybe. I see too many questions up in the air right now though, and if I were on the jury, I don't think I could vote to convict him with what we currently know, but I'm waiting to see what other evidence comes in during the trial.