How to beat a presupp at their own game

[Angrboda]

Darth will start off with ... if you believe one or more facts do not necessitate referencing God as the precondition it necessitates that God can't logically exist in that world. It's inescapable and irrefutable.

In a world where God exists, all facts would necessitate referencing God because they stand in causal relations to God.

So it's "either you believe this or you believe that. This is a YES/NO that he presents to people. He says this is a true dichatomy. One of the Talk Heavens presenters joined into Discord and he said, he doesn't hold a belief on that matter, although Darth means that he does affirm, but the Talk Heaven guy said he doesn't affirm or deny that God has to necessitate or not necessitate etc etc.

The atheist says it's a false bifurcation. Darth says it's a true dichotomy. I don't know.

Theologians speak of God's aseity, that he is not dependent upon anything but himself. This quality of God means that everything else, including the laws of logic, must depend upon and flow from God. Naturally this can be a sticking point, as if the laws of logic and morals aren't dependent upon anything but God, in what way could he be at odds with them. If he can't logically be at odds with them, no matter what they are, then they could be anything that he likes. Others suggest it's absurd to talk about things like God's omnipotence being limited to only doing things that are consistent with his nature if the laws of consistency don't in some sense supercede God. If God is above the laws of logic, there are no limits to what he can do.

But in a nutshell, if you are arguing for such a god, it would render the dichotomy intelligible.