(March 25, 2021 at 9:00 am)Belacqua Wrote:(March 25, 2021 at 8:07 am)Ferrocyanide Wrote: I would say that it is a guarantee that most believers believed what the tanakh told them (***), starting from Genesis and onwards.
Unless, like St. Augustine and every other theologian you can name, they read Genesis as allegory, symbol, etc.
How do you guarantee what you say? Do you have an argument or historical references? Or is it something you just know? I'd be interested to see evidence.
Quote:At which point of the tanakh does it switch to fairy tale mode to reality mode?
To determine this you have to use your brain.
The old time people whom you consider to be naive were in fact often more sophisticated about reading texts than modern people. Today people assume that every sentence has to be a straightforward declarative sentence unless proved otherwise. But not in the old days. Have you read any Plato?
Hermeneutics is an old field.
“Unless, like St. Augustine and every other theologian you can name, they read Genesis as allegory, symbol, etc.”
==This is what I need:
1. I can’t name them. You name them.
2. St. Augustine.
He thinks that Jacob didn’t go out from Beer-sheba, and went toward Haran?
“How do you guarantee what you say?”
==This is something that me and you have to explore. First off, what do you say?
What I say:
Unfortunately, most of the population between 1500 BCE to 1700 CE did not record a video stating whether they took the Genesis story literally or not. I’m not aware of any searchmonkey or askmonkey type of poll.
I don’t know. Is there such data available?
I just did a quick search and it turned up
https://hermeneutics.stackexchange.com/q...rmeneutics
Someone wrote:
“In the very earliest Church there were two chief schools of interpretation, coming out of two different catechetical centers: Alexandria and Antioch. The Alexandrian school, of which Origen is perhaps the examplar, favored allegorical interpretation. The Antiochene school, of which Theodore of Mopsuestia is perhaps the highest achievement, favored a more literal interpretation.”
but why was that happening?
“Have you read any Plato?“
==Yes, a long time ago in school.
--Ferrocyanide