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How to beat a presupp at their own game
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RE: How to beat a presupp at their own game
(March 26, 2021 at 12:47 pm)Superjock Wrote:
(March 20, 2021 at 8:52 pm)vulcanlogician Wrote: Hopefully you're still around, man. Have you tried debating this guy yet? I'm interested in hearing how it went. I'll help if I can.


I'm astounded by the arrogance of someone who thinks they've "solved epistemology." I have a ton of things you can try. 

The first thing that comes to mind: Can you logically demonstrate that "God-based" knowledge is somehow better than regular knowledge?

I mean, this presupp stuff is CLEARLY question begging. Has nobody brought this up? (I'm assuming they have.) What is the typical response to this?

Hi there, no I haven't debated Darth who is the one who has put this argument forth to atheists. I'm not knowledgeable enough to take him on yet. :Sad  His reasoning is that in a godless world, there is nothing absolute and ultimate to ground all possibility and impossibility. It's a universe based on chance, so the laws of physics may change tomorrow. Also, his argument is that all facts and knowledge in a godless world are arbitrary, whereas in his worldview knowledge can only be attained through the Christian God because he is omniscient and all-powerful and institutes that which is fundamental and ultimate etc, etc.

To fellow atheists, somewhat different question - but a question I often see from theists. The question goes : where do atheists get their basis to justify any claim they make?

That would depend on the claim. For example, I can justify the claim that three cats live in our house on the basis of 1) they are cats, and 2) there are three of them.

Boru
‘I can’t be having with this.’ - Esmeralda Weatherwax
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How to beat a presupp at their own game - by Superjock - March 17, 2021 at 4:10 am
RE: How to beat a presupp at their own game - by Belacqua - March 17, 2021 at 4:17 am
RE: How to beat a presupp at their own game - by Belacqua - March 17, 2021 at 5:34 am
RE: How to beat a presupp at their own game - by Angrboda - March 17, 2021 at 12:26 pm
RE: How to beat a presupp at their own game - by Belacqua - March 17, 2021 at 7:39 am
RE: How to beat a presupp at their own game - by Angrboda - March 17, 2021 at 12:39 pm
RE: How to beat a presupp at their own game - by Nay_Sayer - March 17, 2021 at 10:19 am
RE: How to beat a presupp at their own game - by R00tKiT - March 17, 2021 at 6:35 pm
RE: How to beat a presupp at their own game - by brewer - March 17, 2021 at 6:55 pm
RE: How to beat a presupp at their own game - by R00tKiT - March 18, 2021 at 3:29 pm
RE: How to beat a presupp at their own game - by Angrboda - March 18, 2021 at 10:43 am
RE: How to beat a presupp at their own game - by Superjock - March 18, 2021 at 10:03 am
RE: How to beat a presupp at their own game - by Silver - March 18, 2021 at 10:25 am
RE: How to beat a presupp at their own game - by Superjock - March 18, 2021 at 12:21 pm
RE: How to beat a presupp at their own game - by Angrboda - March 18, 2021 at 3:51 pm
RE: How to beat a presupp at their own game - by R00tKiT - March 18, 2021 at 4:09 pm
RE: How to beat a presupp at their own game - by Angrboda - March 19, 2021 at 10:56 am
RE: How to beat a presupp at their own game - by R00tKiT - March 18, 2021 at 4:45 pm
RE: How to beat a presupp at their own game - by R00tKiT - March 19, 2021 at 2:53 pm
RE: How to beat a presupp at their own game - by Angrboda - March 19, 2021 at 8:06 pm
RE: How to beat a presupp at their own game - by Silver - March 18, 2021 at 10:30 pm
RE: How to beat a presupp at their own game - by R00tKiT - March 19, 2021 at 4:04 pm
RE: How to beat a presupp at their own game - by Belacqua - March 19, 2021 at 8:31 pm
RE: How to beat a presupp at their own game - by R00tKiT - March 19, 2021 at 9:29 pm
RE: How to beat a presupp at their own game - by Angrboda - March 20, 2021 at 8:48 am
RE: How to beat a presupp at their own game - by R00tKiT - March 20, 2021 at 9:23 am
RE: How to beat a presupp at their own game - by Angrboda - March 20, 2021 at 9:39 am
RE: How to beat a presupp at their own game - by Angrboda - March 19, 2021 at 9:48 pm
RE: How to beat a presupp at their own game - by Rahn127 - March 20, 2021 at 6:14 am
RE: How to beat a presupp at their own game - by Silver - March 20, 2021 at 9:40 am
RE: How to beat a presupp at their own game - by Superjock - March 26, 2021 at 12:47 pm
RE: How to beat a presupp at their own game - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - March 26, 2021 at 1:11 pm
RE: How to beat a presupp at their own game - by Angrboda - March 27, 2021 at 11:35 am
RE: How to beat a presupp at their own game - by Angrboda - March 29, 2021 at 1:59 am
RE: How to beat a presupp at their own game - by Belacqua - March 29, 2021 at 2:30 am
RE: How to beat a presupp at their own game - by Silver - March 27, 2021 at 8:33 am
RE: How to beat a presupp at their own game - by Rahn127 - March 27, 2021 at 11:26 am
RE: How to beat a presupp at their own game - by Angrboda - March 27, 2021 at 7:12 pm
RE: How to beat a presupp at their own game - by Belacqua - March 27, 2021 at 7:58 pm
RE: How to beat a presupp at their own game - by Silver - March 27, 2021 at 8:56 pm
RE: How to beat a presupp at their own game - by Silver - April 1, 2021 at 9:21 am
RE: How to beat a presupp at their own game - by Silver - April 1, 2021 at 9:26 am
RE: How to beat a presupp at their own game - by Silver - April 1, 2021 at 9:47 am
RE: How to beat a presupp at their own game - by Superjock - April 16, 2021 at 12:18 pm
RE: How to beat a presupp at their own game - by Angrboda - April 16, 2021 at 2:58 pm

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